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re: Will China Respond in 20 mins?**104% Tariffs on China Now in Effect

Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:07 pm to
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I wonder if they dump treasuries


They already are.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8341 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:07 pm to
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They’ll gladly cut us out if we become too volatile to reliably deal with, and so will practically everyone else.


And replace us with who? Russia?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:09 pm to
They got their BRICS
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14557 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:09 pm to
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I wonder if they dump treasuries it will make the bond market go nutz


Bond market sky rocketing right now is scary.

Fewer buyers are buying what was the world’s safest asset. Normally when the economy is going tits up people flock to that, not away.

It’s a scary sign.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8341 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:09 pm to
These people really are clueless. They have no understanding of basic business.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14557 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:10 pm to
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And replace us with who? Russia?


And Europe, and practically every other economy of note.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 11:11 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:11 pm to
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And Europe, and practically everyone other economy of note.


EU already came running. Tbh I thought they’d be our biggest hurdle.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8341 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:12 pm to
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And Europe, and practically everyone other economy of note.


The United States market cannot be replaced. Look at the numbers. The US has all of the leverage in this fight.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14557 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:13 pm to
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EU already came running. Tbh I thought they’d be our biggest hurdle.


We don’t really know where this ends right now, but markets need stability.

If China is more stable a partner than us, then we will be avoided.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14557 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:14 pm to
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The United States market cannot be replaced. Look at the numbers. The US has all of the leverage in this fight.


It’s easier to marginalize us than you think.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 11:14 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:15 pm to
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We don’t really know where this ends right now, but markets need stability.


Correct. Nobody knows where it will go.

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If China is more stable a partner than us, then we will be avoided.


Wrong. China is the world’s bully. They’re taking over countries everyday exploiting them while the US gives aid. China can easily be replaced with India or any other Asian country. One will step up and take our money.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10538 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:16 pm to
Live look at the 10 year bond market, for anyone interested.

LINK

Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
5424 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:16 pm to
Anyone else think this is the end goal? To collapse China economically the same way Reagan did the USSR?

Also think there’s a lot of shite China has been doing behind the scenes we haven’t been told about yet in particularly with Canada.

Also I’m convinced China released Covid intentionally and took part in helping rig the 2020 election.

Can’t directly confront them due to nukes but we can frick them hard economically.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8341 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:16 pm to
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If China is more stable a partner than us, then we will be avoided.


Your insights are wasted here. You should really be studying economics in Chicago, New York, or London. We don’t deserve such brilliant analysis.
Posted by trader_tiger83
Member since Dec 2012
1416 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:18 pm to
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Bond market sky rocketing right now is scary. Fewer buyers are buying what was the world’s safest asset. Normally when the economy is going tits up people flock to that, not away. It’s a scary sign.


And we have jingoistic morons in here welcoming the economic destruction. Someone stable needs to take the wheel. This isn’t winning. Everyone loses in this game.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14557 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:18 pm to
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Correct. Nobody knows where it will go.


We don’t know where the “bottom” is yet.

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Wrong. China is the world’s bully. They’re taking over countries everyday exploiting them while the US gives aid. China can easily be replaced with India or any other Asian country. One will step up and take our money.


He’s put tariffs on them too.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14557 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:19 pm to
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Your insights are wasted here. You should really be studying economics in Chicago, New York, or London. We don’t deserve such brilliant analysis.


This is Econ 101 shite, not Pulitzer level.

Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11153 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:21 pm to
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They’ll gladly cut us out if we become too volatile to reliably deal with, and so will practically everyone else.


No they wouldn’t. That’s silly talk. You have countries used to getting their way because they can blackmail and bribe politicians. Without the US, and our defense and guidance, and without us importing their goods, they collapse. The US is the global economy. If you cut that out along with all the other benefits most of our trade partners have gotten, they crash and burn.

The US holds the cards.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
14557 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:22 pm to
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The US holds the cards.


Some very important lessons here in your near future.

I’m done. This forum is a den of fools.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93415 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:22 pm to
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They already are.


For sure but im talking on an even big scale. It could get really wild

The last 2 days have been insane
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