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Posted on 12/9/22 at 10:56 am to LookSquirrel
Beautiful rant. Well worth listening to just this ONE MINUTE of Truth.
Leave it to a MP WOMAN to unload mad testosterone truth upon her effete co-MPs:
"... Billions keep flowing... [most from the US] this is a country [Zelensky's Ukraine] our Court of Auditors have said was a contrary accused of grand corruption..."
BOOM
Leave it to a MP WOMAN to unload mad testosterone truth upon her effete co-MPs:
"... Billions keep flowing... [most from the US] this is a country [Zelensky's Ukraine] our Court of Auditors have said was a contrary accused of grand corruption..."
BOOM
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:01 am to LookSquirrel
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All the money they are giving to Ukraine, through the EU is NOT FREE. They have to pay it all back, with interest. It is very, VERY likely that Ukraine will default on these loans and the banks will take their stuff as collateral, such as public lands, properties and other assets.
What's more likely is that these loans will be forgiven, as has happened with other loan programs that were used to fund wars specifically. If the EU gets the result they want, capital inflows from the EU will come anyway.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:09 am to getyouinavacant
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Are you a resident NATO/MIC dicks8cker on here? You're getting humiliated on here.
No I just like to show how hypocritical some of you guys are. Ya’ll accuse otters of being sheep, but if anyone posts something that fits your anti US agenda ya’ll applaud even if the comments come from a radical socialists.
In this case ya’ll are carrying Putin’s water in the same exact way this woman is. Ya’ll are using the same exact talking points too.
In this instance it’s obvious to me who the sheep are.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:16 am to crazy4lsu
quote:You mean enough casualties as proxy war fodder? or are you referring to the preservation of Kiev as a money laundering crossroads for the West?
If the EU gets the result they want
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:29 am to NC_Tigah
Well, let's think about why the EU would be interested in funding weapons programs to Ukraine. There is no such thing as a 'donation' in international politics. Any trade organization, which the EU is, needs areas for excess capital to flow. The entirety of the Eastern Europe serves that, and as such, the EU's objectives are directly opposed to Russia's.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:42 am to doubleb
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...if anyone posts something that fits your anti US agenda ya’ll applaud even if the comments come from a radical socialists.
*Question #1:
Exactly what position(s) would you consider an "anti-US agenda" to be with respect to the odd Russia-Ukraine-US political dynamics?
*Question #2: With respect to "radical socialists," from which nation(s) or political position is the context intended?
It seems the leadership of all three major participants involved in the brawl over Ukraine can legitimately be considered "radical socialists" to great degrees
* Dissenters are welcome to answer the above questions / assertions
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:02 pm to sta4ever
quote:
...since Putin is the savior to mankind according to you [PT] nuts.
That's the exact spin we expect (and get) from the usual MSM suspects.
What *is* and has long been claimed:
1) NONE of the three main participants (Russia / Ukraine / US-NATO) is anyone's "hero".
2) Putin is NOT the Devil. Zelensky is NOT the Angel of Ukraine.
3) The US-NATO is NOT the "savior" of anyone. (especially not of the Ukrainian people.)
What is also apparent:
The entire theater of operation in the Ukraine has been a smoke & mirrors op that frames it as a crusade *for* freedom -- when it's about anything BUT.
It is a war over resources, tactical conquest, manipulation of political opinion, and misappropriation & abuse of power from BOTH sides.
On the matter of who has been more aggressive about pushing for WW3 and whose propaganda game is dialed up more, US-NATO is the easy winner. Moreover, it is painfully obvious that NATO = the NWO-WEF muscle
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:06 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:Nah. Boris Johnson laid it all out. Putin (Russia) was not really as powerful as the west previously imagined, and here was a chance to "press him." That my friend, is the singular reason Ukraine is still at war.
why the EU would be interested in funding weapons programs to Ukraine
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:33 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Nah. Boris Johnson laid it all out. Putin (Russia) was not really as powerful as the west previously imagined, and here was a chance to "press him." That my friend, is the singular reason Ukraine is still at war.
None of that really undermines my point. The EU will want Ukraine to join, and capital inflows to the country will be tremendous.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 3:10 pm to LookSquirrel
1000% CORRECT
ANYONE that doesn’t see the angle of these payments as agressively buying the Ukraine thru proxy aka the American Taxpayers is a moron
ANYONE that doesn’t see the angle of these payments as agressively buying the Ukraine thru proxy aka the American Taxpayers is a moron
Posted on 12/9/22 at 4:04 pm to sta4ever
quote:Russia has controlled Crimea, Donbass, and Odessa for longer than the USA has been a country
You tell us why and what would be good concessions for peace talks? I have a feeling you’re going to say the only acceptable peace options are Russia taking Ukrainian territory.
Morons like you running foreign meddling operations is what will destroy Ukraine
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