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Why should the US allow immigrants

Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:33 am
From other countries, if they haven’t demonstrated a certain level of productivity/accomplishments within their own country?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:34 am to
We shouldn't. Next question.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27161 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:35 am to
But, but... what about the children? You know the 20 yo man with facial hair that claims he is 13 and it cannot be verified with any documentation...

Think of the kids man...
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4917 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:38 am to
If you really look for the answer to this question, you would find it.

There are hundreds of factors that work against someone being non-productive. If given a chance people can contribute to the economy. This is demonstrated time and time again with wave after wave of immigrants.

Your argument is akin to saying, "if an unemployed man has demonstrated himself incapable of holding a job, why would anyone ever hire him?" As if employment is always within the control of an individual.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:40 am to
quote:


There are hundreds of factors that work against someone being non-productive. If given a chance people can contribute to the economy. This is demonstrated time and time again with wave after wave of immigrants.

Your argument is akin to saying, "if an unemployed man has demonstrated himself incapable of holding a job, why would anyone ever hire him?" As if employment is always within the control of an individual.


All irrelevant. Immigration to this country should be based on whether or not the applicant brings useful skills to this country. Period. We have too many other domestic issues to solve to be the global handout.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24798 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:41 am to
dims just want the infants and old ladies.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27161 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:42 am to
quote:

As if employment is always within the control of an individual.


You wanna know how I know you either have never hired anyone OR you sucked really bad at it?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83592 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:42 am to
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brings useful skills to this country.


define "useful skills"

and who determines these "useful skills"

thanks
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:43 am to
quote:

whether or not the applicant brings useful skills to this country.
break it down then. List the useful skills you mention:
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:45 am to
quote:

define "useful skills"


Skills that are currently useful to our economy.

quote:

and who determines these "useful skills"


The same people who determine our immigration law.

No problem.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:46 am to
While you maybe completely right, my argument is why is it our duty to grant that “chance”? Ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for you country. It’s not the countries responsibility to grant foreigners a ‘chance’ or an opportunity despite how it might might sound all nice.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83592 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Skills that are currently useful to our economy.


like?

quote:

The same people who determine our immigration law.


what if their "useful skill" definition differs from yours?
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 11:48 am
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5845 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:51 am to
Cheaper labor because millennial’s with degrees will not work low wage jobs and who wants to work at a 7-11.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:52 am to
Honestly, we shouldn't. We should be bringing the best and the brightest with innovative ideas and meaningful skills to our shores. If you can't offer us something, and it sounds bad, but sorry.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:58 am to


Should we give her back?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27161 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Should we give her back?


Why? She has NOTHING to do with immigration... Do you history at all?
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:02 pm to
Obama already did that, remember, our country is evil
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Honestly, we shouldn't. We should be bringing the best and the brightest with innovative ideas and meaningful skills to our shores. If you can't offer us something, and it sounds bad, but sorry.



wow
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22321 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

From other countries, if they haven’t demonstrated a certain level of productivity/accomplishments within their own country?

I don't think you should have to present a resume (productivity, accomplishments, etc.) to gain entry. Only that you have the desire to get in and fulfill the requirements under the law. If you impose performance-based criteria on immigrants, that runs counter to the concept of freedom, thereby denying the opportunity for self-advancement that may not have been available in their country of origin.
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27161 posts
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

that runs counter to the concept of freedom.


bullshite, they are perfectly free to keep their collective butts right where they are...
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