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re: Why Property Is Theft and Why It Matters
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Well I want that too. I’m just not stupid enough to think that I am entitled to it, but I would take it if anyone wants to just pay off my house.
These people want to have a charmed existence in some populated place and not have to pay for it
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:56 pm to MF Doom
Nope, just snippets in OP. Not even sorry. Maybe we should split Madagascar in two. See which internet nerds are really correct.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:They does happen (gentrifying communities), but those people still live in reality.
the most ironic part is that these open-minded leftists could easily have more affordable living
...
if they lived by minorities
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:58 pm to buckeye_vol
dude if you want to piss off these communists, you bring up gentrification 
they are seen as capitalists profiting off minorities. modern day slavery type shite
they are seen as capitalists profiting off minorities. modern day slavery type shite
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the most ironic part is that these open-minded leftists could easily have more affordable living
...
if they lived by minorities
Precisely
This isn't egalitarianism though they've deluded themselves into thinking it's so
They want to enjoy the fruits of capitalism without having to participate in the system. Someone else dies the work, theyvreap the benefit
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:59 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
Place op on the spectrum. Since when do socialists or even anarchist care whether something respects liberty
Since when is somebody that is a libertarian a socialist? They are the opposite end of the political spectrum.
A libertarian isn't an anarchist.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’d love to see this applied on a school playground or in a monkey cage or in Venezuela just to see what would really happen
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:03 pm to lsu777
You’re thinking of a linear spectrum.
Towards the edges, I’d argue it actually arches to become more of an oval
Google horseshoe theory
Towards the edges, I’d argue it actually arches to become more of an oval
Google horseshoe theory
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
...because they all moved to coastal cities and drove the demand up and killed supply, causing rents to raise
To be fair they moved for jobs
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Honestly, I think every Marxist "thinker" was a guy who couldn't pay the rent and decided that the resulting conflict between he and his landlord was a systemic flaw, and not his own.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:07 pm to bmy
quote:
To be fair they moved for jobs
Those cities have plenty of college grads with worthless degrees, 50k in debt and working at Starbucks part time who moved there for a lifestyle
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:09 pm to bmy
quote:
To be fair they moved for jobs
i think this is largely mythology
or just really bad decision-making
these are people who aren't making shite, comparatively
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:11 pm to blueboy
quote:
decided that the resulting conflict between he and his landlord was a systemic flaw, and not his own.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
The institutions that make up laissez-faire capitalism, the institution of private property especially, are imposed involuntarily on populations whether they want them or not. And to the extent that such involuntary impositions are enforced by violently attacking other human beings when they don’t comply, they are liberty-infringing.
This is wracking my brain.
How are you gonna stop someone from claiming property without violence?
Also, I loooooathe how all internet socialist love to talk in this international arts English. Like bitch be more concise
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Disagree. They are the ones who never move in or move in way after it’s been gentrified, maybe never even knowing or caring who lived there before.
they are seen as capitalists profiting off minorities. modern day slavery type shite
I do get some of the problems of gentrification, but I don’t think they are related to broader economic issues related to credit, homeownership, and housing supply, that goes beyond specific neighborhoods and specific races.
One of the main reasons I bought a home was because rent and housing prices were rising rapidly, so it just seemed like at that rate (rent was up 50% in 3 years) the fit here out I looked, the more I would have to save to buy a home while rent was eating into that while being harder to predict moving forward and harder to control.
Luckily we could afford it, but it’s not as easy as people act especially since home prices have far outpaced income over the last 30 years. And just like student loans, people seem to think it’s because millennials or whomever have some internal problem, so they live at home, have roommates, put off families, etc., but it’s not as easy as it once was in many ways.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:17 pm to MF Doom
quote:
The institutions that make up laissez-faire capitalism, the institution of private property especially, are imposed involuntarily on populations whether they want them or not. And to the extent that such involuntary impositions are enforced by violently attacking other human beings when they don’t comply, they are liberty-infringing.
Muh not explicitly consenting to the social contract so it therefore should not apply to me. Internet libertarians argue this same shite.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:19 pm to Revelator
quote:
So lefties are now fine with people squatting in thier homes and on thier property?
Their property?
That's stolen man.
Community property. I had a guy in college who was some wacked out retard come up to me during a football game and start grabbing at my Nachos...I slapped his hand away and said WTF?
"Community Nachos man...community Nachos."
Yeah...who paid for feeding this "community?"
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:19 pm to boosiebadazz
Good thing I'm a radical centrist
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:20 pm to MF Doom
We’re a dying breed around here
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I know these people exist, but I really think this is far less common than people argue.
Those cities have plenty of college grads with worthless degrees, 50k in debt and working at Starbucks part time who moved there for a lifestyle
I don’t know a single person who this applies to, and I spent 10 years in college, and taught some undergrad courses and not all of them were destined for some cushy job.
Most Starbucks employees seem to be either college age or not much older. And I would rather someone work and complain, then complain and not work.
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