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Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:31 am to ShortyRob
ISPs are not fleas. You have no concept of what it would cost for content providors to blanket the United States with their own infrastructure end to end.
You try to boil this down to a macroeconomics course you took when you were 18 because you simply dont have the background to understand the real issues...
You try to boil this down to a macroeconomics course you took when you were 18 because you simply dont have the background to understand the real issues...
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:32 am to TrueTiger
What "Fairness" argument? Please explain
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:33 am to NYNolaguy1
This dude has become a crusader against NN because the ISPs were smart enough to hire folks to lobby his favorite politicians. Definition of being a tool of the state and he calls himself conservative.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:33 am to Tigerdev
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I kind of like being in an environment where access to information and opportunities for small businesses arent controlled by a handful of companies with the worst track records of any large businesses in the United States. Call me crazy
Hey. I totally get this.
What you guys don't seem to get is you hate Comcast(I do too). NN does NOTHING to solve that problem for you. You hate it WITH NN. Slow your roll a second and contemplate that.
Your own argument is that NN has been the defacto rules forever.........and you fricking HATE all the ISPs. Now, if you did slow your roll............as yourself. Does NN create ANY impetus at all to change that?
Now, let's talk some real truth.
Those ISPs know their days are numbered. They're all fricking Blockbuster video for all practical purposes. Yeah. They think removing NN gives them some ability to engage the big dogs.
And, they're probably right.
Alas, it's a fool's errand. Those big dogs had 10 inch teeth and the little dogs are fricking Yorkies nipping on their heels.
A lot of shite will play out. No. I can't predict the twists and turns.
But, if I had to bet my house on it right now, I would say that in 10 years, you will look back at Comcast and it's friends like you look at Sears today(do you know liberals as recently as the 90s worried about Sears having "too much market power!!!"
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:35 am to Tigerdev
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This dude has become a crusader against NN because the ISPs were smart enough to hire folks to lobby his favorite politicians. Definition of being a tool of the state and he calls himself conservative.
You see. This is just laziness.
I mean, rather than actually discuss with you I could simply dismiss your thoughts as "you've become a crusader for NN because lobbyists paid your favorite politicians to convince you".
You see how non-intellectual that is?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:35 am to NYNolaguy1
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I still have trouble believing you view the current telecom arrangement as a totally free market.
Excellent because I don't.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:36 am to NYNolaguy1
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Yet you have difficulty explaining how legally this can't happen.
LOL
LOTS of shite CAN happen legally in almost any subject we could talk about.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:38 am to TrueTiger
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Ah, the 'fairness' argument. It was only a matter of time.
That's all this REALLY is about.
For all the scary "what ifs" out there, the REAL bitching is being driven by a fear that granny who barely uses the net won't pay much while gamer dude who only comes out of his basement once a month might pay out the arse.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:39 am to ShortyRob
EXACTLY. PROGRESSIVES believe that if they Lervvv it, then it is a “need” that everyone else should pay for.
They make me want to puke.
They make me want to puke.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 10:42 am to Honkus
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I'm not a progessive at all and support net neutrality.
The Internet needs to be treated like a utility.
This. But leave it to S. Louisiana Rednecks to make it partisan.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:03 am to Greace
Oh come on.
You don't think that a potentially higher price is "fair" because it doesn't meet your sense of morality, because it doesn't meet what you want.
A normal consumer who doesn't think an offer is fair doesn't buy the product but not you.
No, you want big daddy government to go beat up the seller and force him to sell at a price that fits your view. What the seller thinks is fair has no relevance to you as long as you get your way.
You don't think that a potentially higher price is "fair" because it doesn't meet your sense of morality, because it doesn't meet what you want.
A normal consumer who doesn't think an offer is fair doesn't buy the product but not you.
No, you want big daddy government to go beat up the seller and force him to sell at a price that fits your view. What the seller thinks is fair has no relevance to you as long as you get your way.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:06 am to TrueTiger
I want internet to continue to be the way it has always been?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:10 am to blueboy
Do Progressives not consistently accuse those on the right of favoring only the powerful, and placing themselves on the side they think will appear more sympathetic?
The use of the word was deliberate. There are other typos in my OP, but that wasn’t one of them.
This whole NN meltdown is based on a PR campaign by multi billion dollar businesses That are content providers trying to appear more sympathetic.
The use of the word was deliberate. There are other typos in my OP, but that wasn’t one of them.
This whole NN meltdown is based on a PR campaign by multi billion dollar businesses That are content providers trying to appear more sympathetic.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 12:10 pm to Wednesday
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Do Progressives not consistently accuse those on the right of favoring only the powerful, and placing themselves on the side they think will appear more sympathetic?
quote:Not the same usage as asserted above. I think maybe plebeian or proletariat was what you were looking for.
So Progressives can feel good about themselves, and smarter than everybody else because they believe in "Net Neutrality" while the rest of you patricians don't.
You misused a word. Just fix it or get over it. Don't make it worse.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:18 pm to ShortyRob
Actually the last two times ive talked to you about this you gave up on addressing my posts...
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