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Why Progressives Lervvv Net Neutrality
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 8:58 am
Net Neutrality is yet another meltdown by the Left (which includes businesses like Google, Facebook, Twitter) for the reasons Progressives always melt down. They believe that they are thinking instead of emoting.
Their embrace of Net neutrality, and meltdown that follows is an excellent metaphor for their treatment of any government intervention, on any topic - from health insurance, to bailouts of financial institutions.
1) Obama invented it, and then decreed it by fiat. Leftists believe that when Obama decrees something, it must create warm fuzzies and bunnies. So NN means rainbows and peace and lots of chocolate without getting fat. So they want to keep it.
2) They are pissed off that Trump eliminated something Obame put in place. It means that Trump is actually the President - so they freak out. Again.
3)"Net Neutrality." The name sounds fair. So Progressives can feel good about themselves, and smarter than everybody else because they believe in "Net Neutrality" while the rest of you patricians don't. Because the name sounds good, Trump eliminating it further proves that he is not qualified to be President because he's a big ole meanie.
4) Net Neutrality requires that the majority of people paying for something Progressives like (example Twitter) even when they don't use it. Progressives love charging everybody for shite that Progressives want. By this I mean - in the modern world, most people do use the internet, and pay for it to their ISP, but not everybody uses Netflix.
I love Netflix. But Netflix is passing along the cost of its doing business, of course to me - because I watch it and therefore pay for it, but also to other people who use the internet but don't use Netflix. That's great for Millennials and sucks for little old ladies who are also using the internet, but not Netflix.
Ultimately, as putrid as the customer service and general contempt with with Cox Communications treats its customers, I think Netflix is gonna have way more bargaining power than me when negotiating its bill. So I say - frick Netflix. Get rid of Net Neutrality. Netflix can take care of itself. My grandmother shouldn't be paying for whether Netflix stays open. It can pay Kevin Spacey less for him to fondle little boys and star in House of Cards.
Example - refineries need electricity to function. They build in their own electrical grids. They aren't just plugging into the public electrical. Refinery builds into the cost of its product the cost of building its own electrical grid.
5) Leftists lervvv to project. Example: they wanted to take down right wingers (example Bill O'Reilly) by sexual harassment allegations - whether true or false - didn't matter. But their shite is waaayyy worse (example Harvey Weinstein). And it always is.
Left wingers are crying because somehow they think this is gonna result in Cox / Comcast / AT&T discriminating against their #resist content. However, businesses like Twitter and YouTube have demonstrably censored conservative opinion - by finding ways to hide it, or charging more or whatever.
When Cox starts discriminating against Netflix by the nature of its Content, as opposed to volume of content - then maybe I will get on the side of these freak shows who are crying like this is Armageddon.
But until then...I'm sort of meh on the topic.
Their embrace of Net neutrality, and meltdown that follows is an excellent metaphor for their treatment of any government intervention, on any topic - from health insurance, to bailouts of financial institutions.
1) Obama invented it, and then decreed it by fiat. Leftists believe that when Obama decrees something, it must create warm fuzzies and bunnies. So NN means rainbows and peace and lots of chocolate without getting fat. So they want to keep it.
2) They are pissed off that Trump eliminated something Obame put in place. It means that Trump is actually the President - so they freak out. Again.
3)"Net Neutrality." The name sounds fair. So Progressives can feel good about themselves, and smarter than everybody else because they believe in "Net Neutrality" while the rest of you patricians don't. Because the name sounds good, Trump eliminating it further proves that he is not qualified to be President because he's a big ole meanie.
4) Net Neutrality requires that the majority of people paying for something Progressives like (example Twitter) even when they don't use it. Progressives love charging everybody for shite that Progressives want. By this I mean - in the modern world, most people do use the internet, and pay for it to their ISP, but not everybody uses Netflix.
I love Netflix. But Netflix is passing along the cost of its doing business, of course to me - because I watch it and therefore pay for it, but also to other people who use the internet but don't use Netflix. That's great for Millennials and sucks for little old ladies who are also using the internet, but not Netflix.
Ultimately, as putrid as the customer service and general contempt with with Cox Communications treats its customers, I think Netflix is gonna have way more bargaining power than me when negotiating its bill. So I say - frick Netflix. Get rid of Net Neutrality. Netflix can take care of itself. My grandmother shouldn't be paying for whether Netflix stays open. It can pay Kevin Spacey less for him to fondle little boys and star in House of Cards.
Example - refineries need electricity to function. They build in their own electrical grids. They aren't just plugging into the public electrical. Refinery builds into the cost of its product the cost of building its own electrical grid.
5) Leftists lervvv to project. Example: they wanted to take down right wingers (example Bill O'Reilly) by sexual harassment allegations - whether true or false - didn't matter. But their shite is waaayyy worse (example Harvey Weinstein). And it always is.
Left wingers are crying because somehow they think this is gonna result in Cox / Comcast / AT&T discriminating against their #resist content. However, businesses like Twitter and YouTube have demonstrably censored conservative opinion - by finding ways to hide it, or charging more or whatever.
When Cox starts discriminating against Netflix by the nature of its Content, as opposed to volume of content - then maybe I will get on the side of these freak shows who are crying like this is Armageddon.
But until then...I'm sort of meh on the topic.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:01 am to Wednesday
NN is a crony capitalism protection racket cleverly disguised as consumer protection.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:07 am to TrueTiger
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crony capitalism protection racket cleverly disguised as consumer protection
This is the definition of leftist policymaking and/or its guiding principle.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:11 am to Wednesday
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Obama invented it
Except he didn't. It's been the defacto standard for internet traffic since the day the internet first came about. But you knew that
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:14 am to Wednesday
It’s not Wednesday and you’re a dumbass
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:14 am to Wednesday
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Obama invented it, and then decreed it by fiat. Trumpers believe that when Obama decrees something, it must create dark times and taxes. So NN means big gubmint. So they want to axe it.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:16 am to Wednesday
I'm not a progessive at all and support net neutrality.
The Internet needs to be treated like a utility.
The Internet needs to be treated like a utility.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:19 am to TigerTalker16
Wow. You must not be just regular smart TigerTalker; you must be super duper smart. In fact, I can read your IQ Points through your internet handle and I am now doubting my reason for living.
See above. Emoting is not the same thing as thinking.
See above. Emoting is not the same thing as thinking.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:21 am to DavidTheGnome
Sure. But after the explosion of internet. Some businesses take up more bandwidth than others. Obama decided to protect these businesses by telling you he was protecting you.
But you knew that. Or sadly maybe you didn’t.
But you knew that. Or sadly maybe you didn’t.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:23 am to Wednesday
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1) Obama invented it, and then decreed it by fiat.
Christ on a cracker.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:23 am to Wednesday
My hunch is a lot of “regular” people support NN for some combo of reasons. A classic case of intentions over actual results, who could oppose “neutrality” that Obama support and Trump opposes it is also I suspect a big factor in the public meltdown.
Now Silicon Valley companies like FB, Twitter, Google et al support it because they benefit. Plain and simple. That’s one part that’s so funny to me people freaking out about “corporate overlords” this is favoring 1 group of Corp, content providers over another, ISPs
Now Silicon Valley companies like FB, Twitter, Google et al support it because they benefit. Plain and simple. That’s one part that’s so funny to me people freaking out about “corporate overlords” this is favoring 1 group of Corp, content providers over another, ISPs
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:25 am to TrueTiger
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NN is a crony capitalism protection racket cleverly disguised as consumer protection.
Seems to me that it ultimately comes down to who would you rather control the internet: government or private corporations. With that, I'll take the latter every time.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:37 am to Wednesday
Very solid post Wednesday.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:37 am to Wednesday
You obviously do not grasp the ramifications of the repeal of NN. Let me provide you with an example. Say electricity providers are able to determine which kind of oven you use for cooking. Well GE has a deal with most electricity providers to prioritize their ovens over their competitors. So instead of taking 30 minutes to cook your meal with a non GE oven it takes 2 hrs because the electricity companies are able to throttle the amount of electricity they provide to your oven. Now replace Electricity company with ISP, GE with facebook, cooking speed with internet speed and non GE oven with a new up and coming social media site.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:40 am to H-Town Tiger
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That’s one part that’s so funny to me people freaking out about “corporate overlords” this is favoring 1 group of Corp, content providers over another, ISPs
This exactly.
We are watching corporate giants fight it out while being lied to about it all being about consumer protection.
Obama put government's hand on the scale to help the side he liked and all Trump did was take the hand off.
In reality we are back to government being neutral in this fight.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:41 am to Damone
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Seems to me that it ultimately comes down to who would you rather control the internet: government or private corporations. With that, I'll take the latter every time.
Or... you could realize that neither government nor private corporations are inherently good or bad. Like all institutions, they're made up of humans who have a variety of motives, ranging from altruistic to thoroughly selfish.
Government control over internet content can certainly lead to horrifying results (e.g., China). However, control over internet content by private corporations can be equally stultifying. Ever wonder why government-sponsored research is hidden behind ridiculously-expensive paywalls that literally cost colleges and universities millions each year? When profit motives supersede the public interest, society as a whole suffers.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:43 am to crazyLSUstudent
Not sure electricity and internet service are comparable commodities. Not really the same ballpark. Not even the same fricking sport.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:44 am to ScoopAndScore
How many people do you know that dont use the internet atleast once a day?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:44 am to TrueTiger
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NN is a crony capitalism protection racket cleverly disguised as consumer protection.
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