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re: Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?

Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:47 pm to
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Turning your back on democracies fighting for freedom because the dictators have a bigger army is what is different now.


No, it’s fricking not, you dumbass child. Sorry that you might get your Q4 bonus because there’s not enough Ukrainians dying.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:50 pm to
And don’t give me this shite about the US And the Soviet union being allies during World War II. That’s complete nonsense and neither side trusted the other. They built a freaking wall through the middle of Berlin to prove it.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:51 pm to
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He’s basically yelling Z that he has to just concede defeat and salvage what’s left.

Why can’t he tell Putin to just go back home and let Ukraine be Ukraine?

What am I missing?


Because Putin isn't the one who needs OUR MONEY! What planet do you people live on?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:52 pm to
Do you idiots understand that in war, the people winning actually have the upper hand at the negotiating table? You fricking people sound like Baghdad Bob.
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:53 pm to
I know they don’t have any leverage. Biden pissed that away in the beginning.

But not having leverage is nowhere near the same thing as taking the other side. Case in point, Paul Manafort.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:55 pm to
Ok I’ll bite how is Trump taking Putin’s side? What is he doing that is him taking Putin’s side?
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:56 pm to
He just denies what the intelligence says in front of the whole world. He just repeats whatever the Kremlin tells him as if that’s the gospel.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:57 pm to
And what intelligence is that?
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:58 pm to
If Trump doesn’t want to stand up to Putin, because he’s scared shitless of the guy, I’ll buy that.

Biden was scared of him also.

But I’m not buying that he’s some sort of tough guy, because he scared to say anything that might piss Putin off. That much is obvious..

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:58 pm to
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And what intelligence is that?


The same intelligence that said Hunter’s laptop is Russian disinformation
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:58 pm to
It’s the intelligence analysis prepared by State lifers who’ve been wrong about everything since 1992. But this time…. This time, they’re gonna get it right.
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:59 pm to
in the liberals' minds unless we continue to provide unlimited funds and weapons until Russia leaves, we're on Putin's side. There should be no negotiating with Putin. He either accepts our terms or the war continues. That's their mindset.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 11:00 pm
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:59 pm to
You’re just gonna have to go watch the press conference from Helsinki when the two were up on the stage.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:00 pm to
You sound super tough. Do you sometimes pretend your cubicle is a foxhole?
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:00 pm to
Ok that didn’t answer my question what intelligence regarding The russo-Ukraine war, Russians plans after the Ukraine war, or even any thing to do with Russian intentions has he been given that he is denying.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:02 pm to
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in the liberals' minds unless we continue to provide unlimited funds and weapons until Russia leaves, we're on Putin's side. There should be no negotiating with Putin. He either accepts the terms or the war continues. That's their mindset.


They’re losing their minds because they were told for three years by the corporate Western media that Ukraine was winning and we are just one more blank check away from defeating the Russians. Reality is starting to settle in that Ukraine isn’t winning and they can’t handle it.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:02 pm to
Just give me one example. And not that after Ukraine Russia plans on rolling into Europe because if that’s the intel he is given the he’s right to deny that cause it’s just dumb
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:04 pm to
Look, I’ve already accepted the fact that Trump isn’t going to stand up to Putin.

Trump has already told us that he’s done supporting Ukraine, and really wants to take the US out of NATO.

So he doesn’t give a shite about Europe, our allies, really anything that’s not going to personally enrich him.

That’s fine, nothing I say is going to change that. It’s much easier to just let Europe handle it from here on out, since he doesn’t want to lead any sort of resistance.

I would just rather live in a world where the US has friends that are willing to help us because we are on the right side, maybe we need that someday, who knows.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:05 pm to
Clearly everything.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:05 pm to
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He’s basically yelling Z that he has to just concede defeat and salvage what’s left.


Because Putin has already agreed to sit down for peace talks. Zelenskyy doesn’t want peace, he wants to ride this gravy train until he has grifted everyine else’s money.
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