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re: Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?

Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:23 pm to
The other dirty little secret is that the US is out of artillery shells. The Ukrainians have to use heavy shelling to keep the Russians pinned down. Unfortunately our supply chain on munitions sucks. Trump recognizes that if we continue to ship this level of munitions to Ukraine it leaves us dangerously prepared for any other conflicts.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:25 pm to
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How much money has putin asked us for, you stupid bastard?


God Bless you!
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141114 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:25 pm to
One guy has 8,000 nuclear warheads.

The other guy is snorting coke, begging for money, and wears a track suit.

Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2043 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:26 pm to
You just messing with people now right? You can’t really be this dumb
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:26 pm to
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What am I missing?
Russian propaganda
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:27 pm to
Possibly the dumbest question ever asked on here.
Posted by TokenLiberal
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:27 pm to
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How much money has putin asked us for, you stupid bastard?

He won't have to ask us when Ukraine falls and he proceeds on through Europe.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2043 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:28 pm to
There it is. That’s what I been waiting on. Somebody that thinks Russia has the desire and capability to roll through Europe
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12444 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:28 pm to
You should go volunteer. I hear they need people.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141114 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:28 pm to
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You can’t really be this dumb


don't underestimate TackySweater.

Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8104 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:29 pm to
You can’t fix stupid.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12444 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:29 pm to
Let’s wager on that. I’ll gave you until 2028. How much?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10370 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:31 pm to
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But if he just forces Putin to stop, then we aren’t bankrolling anything anymore.


How will he force Putin to stop?

That only happens if we put American boots on the ground.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:36 pm to
Because when Z finally gets on board and Putin refuses to accept a peace deal then it will all be on Putin.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68860 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:39 pm to
Mostly because Z is a clown and a tin pot mafia thug. Putin is a world leader.

Z is out of his element and all the big kids know it.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 8:40 pm
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3526 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:48 pm to
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He won't have to ask us when Ukraine falls and he proceeds on through Europe.


Putin wants no part of the 2nd Ottoman Empire currently invading Europe.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:53 pm to
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Why can’t he tell Putin to just go back home and let Ukraine be Ukraine?

What am I missing?


Is this honestly a question? Requiring anything of Putin that he doesn't want requires significantly more resources in best case from us, and the loss of our lives potential for WW3 in worst case.

Requiring Zelensky to give up what Ukraine has lost and call it a day requires nothing from us. This is the only path with which we don't get further bled dry, but leads to peace.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3558 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:56 pm to
Lol. You people are special
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
13962 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:58 pm to
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So why can’t he just tell Putin, “ok this is enough, just go home and give them back what you stole”
Same reason Mexico can't say that to Texas. Same reason why Guantanamo Bay and Puerto Rico is in United States hands for 100 years.

If we had not stupidly had pushed the notion of Ukraine becoming a NATO country, and Ukraine had not punished the people that were pro-Russian, Putin would not have had a legit reason. Russia hasn't been a real threat to NATO since the fall of the Berlin Wall, but we kept expanding eastward. We almost had WW3 back in the 1960's because the USSR tried to put nukes on Cuba. Now we are expanding to the point where a NATO base in on the doorstep of Moscow. Stupid shite. All in the name of the MIC and kickbacks to corrupt politicians.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124745 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:00 pm to
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Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?


He is playing hardball with Putin. We haven’t given Russia a penny for their war efforts.
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