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re: Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?

Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by Tider13
Member since Jun 2020
953 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:15 pm to
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This has nothing to do with peace, if that’s actually the goal here (it’s not).


So what's the goal jackass?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:15 pm to
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Putin wants to negotiate and Zelenskyy doesn’t.

But why did he start it in the first place?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
91998 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:16 pm to
Putin is ready to talk peace. The midget is still playing games.

Not that hard.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:16 pm to
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You are right. We should just continue bankrolling an endless war.

I didn’t say that at all.

But if he just forces Putin to stop, then we aren’t bankrolling anything anymore.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20578 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:17 pm to
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But if he just forces Putin to stop


Did Biden's sanctions work? What further interventions would you like to try specifically and why didn't Biden try them?
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 8:19 pm
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:17 pm to
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But why is he letting the bully get off?


Because he’s a puss who dodged the draft because of “bone spurs”. You guys think he’s going to do dick to a former kgb agent who’s whole career is based off controlling and eliminating billionaire oligarchs?

Boy, have I got news for you.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Putin is ready to talk peace.

I’m sure he is.

If I went and robbed someone’s house, took their money, and was just hanging out at their house, I wouldn’t mind just leaving with their money.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
3958 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:17 pm to
Trump is a simp for Putin and russian oligarchs.
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2922 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:18 pm to
Because everyone’s money is going to Z and not Putin that’s why . And if you haven’t noticed . Americans views and beliefs align more with Russia than Europe at this point . I know mine sure as hell do .
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35450 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:18 pm to
Question is too dumb to bother trying to answer.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8104 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:18 pm to
Because Zelenskyy doesn’t want to talk peace while he’s being funded and armed by the United States and Europe. Zelenskyy holds out hope of reclaiming lost territory which experience shows is a pipe dream.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
13978 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:18 pm to
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Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?
He's already told Zelensky and the rest of the world. ZELENSKY DOESN'T HOLD ANY CARDS! Putin definitely has cards!
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55959 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:19 pm to
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Why is Trump playing hardball with Z but not Putin?


Because Trump isn't Biden

the funding is over

and it's time to end it

Putin aint coming to the table while America sponsers the war

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Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8104 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:19 pm to
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But if he just forces Putin to stop, then we aren’t bankrolling anything anymore.


That’s the point of a ceasefire.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:20 pm to
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He's already told Zelensky and the rest of the world. ZELENSKY DOESN'T HOLD ANY CARDS! Putin definitely has cards!

So why can’t he just tell Putin, “ok this is enough, just go home and give them back what you stole”
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
11313 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:20 pm to
OP is a fricking idiot
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18099 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:20 pm to
We're not funding Russia with money and arms. We aren't paying Russian citizens social security each month.


We are doing that for Ukraine. Ukraine has only lasted this long because of us propping them up. Ukraine is the country we have a say in, considered how much money we've thrown their way. Zelensky is refusing to even entertain the notion of peace talks. Of stopping the war. He expects us to prop them up forever.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7794 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:21 pm to
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aero1126


I thought dodging the draft was cool to the left. Who proved he didn't have bone spurs? How many people like him went to the war?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50698 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:21 pm to
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What am I missing?
The world isn't as big as you think. There are two economic/military superpowers and one military superpowers. Eventually, two will team up to take out the other, at least economically.

Which would you prefer?

A. USA alliance with Russia

or,

oh, wait.... that's the only choice. No way in hell China allies with the USA against Russia.

Trump knows this. Imagine a world, if you can, where Russia moves to a more Democratic government and becomes a valuable trading partner and ally. Now try to do the same with China. You can't. You know the they are the real threat to the USA, so why can't you understand what Trump is doing? Trump is trying to make the world a better market. Or China will end up ruling everyone, at least economically, if not militarily.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41749 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:22 pm to
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What am I missing?


Should I tell him?

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