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re: Why don’t states use an electoral college style system for elections?

Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:22 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:22 am to
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I agree it makes no sense on a state level and really anybody advocating for it on a state level are just butt hurt that they are losing elections
Why? The US includes four states that would be among the 20-largest economies in the world, if they were independent nations. The populations of those four states are also quite large-enough for a federal system of some sort. Geographically alone, you could perhaps argue that New York or Florida is too small, but I think that even THAT is a losing argument.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4915 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:25 am to
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Because Trump idiots will riot if it does not go their way??

Do you people project EVERYTHING?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32425 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:26 am to
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so nola doesnt get to improse its values on the rest of the state.


Maybe the rest of the state needs to grow in population then.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69278 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:30 am to
A lot of states used to do this, but those practices were deemed illegal by the voting rights act as these schemes tended to dilute minority voting power. It resulted in all state houses having their districts be determined by population with no room for regionism. I always found this incredibly asinine as our own federal legislative branch has two houses, one apportioned by population and the other purely geographical.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:33 am to
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If states used an electoral system, Democrats would never win an election outside of San Francisco, NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle, and Portland.


Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32425 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 11:43 am to
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A lot of states used to do this, but those practices were deemed illegal by the voting rights act as these schemes tended to dilute minority voting power.


In the case of GA's unit system, it make the urban areas almost powerless because of the amount of rural counties in the state.
This post was edited on 11/11/22 at 11:46 am
Posted by RedRamJam
Member since Nov 2022
74 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:12 pm to
It is a State's rights issue.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9658 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:20 pm to
Simply put, the States hold preeminence over the counties which were created as subdivisions of the various states. The States, however, are NOT subdivisions of the Federal Government despite what common current political culture would have you believe.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50785 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:24 pm to
Because of gerrymandering
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79899 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:25 pm to

Counties are part of the state. Not a separately recognized sovereign state.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32425 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 1:01 pm to
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the States hold preeminence over the counties which were created as subdivisions of the various states.


Also, the EC has some basis in population via using the # of House Reps as the predominant measure of EC votes.
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