re: Why don't liberals "get" memes?

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I don't think it's asking too much for a President to act Presidential. "Make America Great Again" has become make America the laughing stock of the world.

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Oh really? Who's laughing?

I'll wait as the rest of the world looks for "help" from the US daily.

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Oh really? Who's laughing?

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Define what you mean and give examples of Presidents who met your standard for "Presidential".

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Delete twitter, stop the "whataboutism", start holding normal press briefings, ditch the strong armed handshakes and pulls/shoves of other sovereign nation's leaders, give coherent and detailed public addresses, give the public some insight as to your policy and future policy decisions (Do we even know his tax plan yet? He called his own healthcare bill "mean"), don't chastise a prior president for his extracurricilurs when yours are just as egregius, don't drive your cart on the green

I mean, c'mon. It's self explanatory. Yes he's a "new comer" to politics, but when you're surrounded by politicians and political advisors, that is not an excuse.

Examples of past presidential presidents? I don't know. I was only alive for 3 presidents...on the whole, I'd say they've all been more "presidential" than Trump. Clinton, Bush, Obama. Obviously Clinton being the worst example. Being presidential IMO = stop acting like an idiot and act like you're the leader of the greatest country on Earth. It's not that difficult.

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Delete twitter, stop the "whataboutism", start holding normal press briefings

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That's not a definition of Presidential. You just listed the what not to do part which basically amounts to, you don't like Trump.

Define Presidential.

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I'd say they've all been more "presidential" than Trump. Clinton, Bush, Obama.

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Since you haven't defined Presidential, it's hard to evaluate.

But, to look at those 3.
Clinton - Self explanatory. I don't know how much time Trump spends forming tweets, but, it's almost certainly a LOT less than the time require to routinely frick your intern in the Oval office and work to hide it.

Bush - There are people that sincerely believe he and his admin worked to exaggerate or falsify intel to get us into Iraq. That just seems a shade worse than mean words. Call me crazy.

Obama - Happily, HAPPILY played into the blacks vs whites meme uncounted times. Used the IRS against his political opponents and clearly used intel agencies to spy on his potential successor's opponents.

So, I'm really gonna need that definition of "Presidential" because from where I sit, "presidential" is a catch all term for "I don't like the guy".

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Scots are weird as frick. That's not even an insult, I think they'd tell you that about themselves.

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Nice as can be but I completely see your point haha

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Actually there are a lot of countries that don't want our help at all. They'd like to see us gtfo out of their countries. Anyways to answer who's laughing its a mixed bag. I have some Scottish friends that half think he's an embarrassment and half think he's great. I wouldn't use the people around you or this board as a sample size of what the consensus is

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Considering I work in a lab that has one Polish, one Indian, and a few Chinese who all voted for Trump, I would say he's not doing too bad.

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So, I'm really gonna need that definition of "Presidential" because from where I sit, "presidential" is a catch all term for "I don't like the guy".

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pres·i·den·tial ?prez?'den(t)SH(?)l/ adjective relating to a president or presidency. "the French presidential election" having a bearing or demeanor befitting a president; dignified and confident.

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dig·ni·fied 'dign??fid/ adjective having or showing a composed or serious manner that is worthy of respect.

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con·fi·dent 'känf?d?nt/ adjective 1. feeling or showing confidence in oneself; self-assured.

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There. Literally a definition. I would not consider Trump to be dignified. Confident, sure, but I think it's a more a chip on his shoulder. He's confident in who he is and doesn't like being called out for it so he lashes out - which is where the not being dignified part comes in.

You aren't going to change my mind, and I won't change yours. Bc opinions and things...such is politics.

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There. Literally a definition. I would not consider Trump to be dignified. Confident

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K.

1. One can be confident and be undignified. One can be dignified and not be confident. Also, confidence in itself isn't by default a positive trait.

2. The 3 examples I gave of Presidents in your lifetime can all be said to be MUCH less "dignified" than saying mean words.

My point isn't that Trump's tweets ARE dignified.

It's that this mysterious "presidential" thing liberals are clamoring for is so much bull shite.

It's just a word to be used in place of "I don't like him" because they think it sounds more universal.

It doesn't.

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It's that this mysterious "presidential" thing liberals are clamoring for is so much bull shite. It's just a word to be used in place of "I don't like him" because they think it sounds more universal. It doesn't.

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I'm not liberal. One can be critical of Trump and not be liberal. Shocker, I'm sure.

Why does is matter if that word is used? It isn't bullshite and it isn't incorrect. I have a profession, and if I gave out confidential client information, I would not be acting professional. Trump is the president, he is doing and saying things that, over the recent history of the presidency, are atypical of a president and therefore he is not being presidential.

The words I, or anyone, use to criticize Trump don't matter - Trump supporters just can't stomach any criticism of Trump.

I'm more than willing to give him a chance, was from the start, but he needs to lay low and focus on the policies and getting things done. Not CNN and Morning Joe.

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I'm not liberal. One can be critical of Trump and not be liberal. Shocker, I'm sure.

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I specifically avoided calling you one too.

But, it's self explanatory that yes, a lot of liberals are using the term.

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Why does is matter if that word is used? It isn't bullshite and it isn't incorrect.

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Well, yes. It demonstrably is incorrect.

There's no such thing as "acting Presidential". All that phrase means is, "act like I want you to act because I don't like you".

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Trump is the president, he is doing and saying things that, over the recent history of the presidency, are atypical of a president and therefore he is not being presidential.

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He's simply doing DIFFERENT things that COULD be called "unpresidential" by people who don't like him.

Same as every other President........ever.

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lay low and focus on the policies and getting things done.

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I'm not one of these people that falls for the "if he's doing X, he can't do Y" logic because, well, it's not actually logic.

Yes. He needs to get things done.

THAT is what he should be judged upon.