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re: Why doesnt trump deport the families of business owners who hire illegals?

Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by Tim
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
7052 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:29 pm to
So we are going to punish business owners for the government failing to do their job, secure the border....
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:31 pm to
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So we are going to punish business owners for the government failing to do their job, secure the border....


Ignorance of the law is not a defense.

Except for Don Jr, apparently.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:37 pm to
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Except for Don Jr, apparently.
For the record, Mueller doesn't actually say that the only reason he didn't indict Jr. was because of ignorance of the law.
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However, the report says, no prior court decision has treated “uncompensated opposition research,” such as the information promised by the Russians, as representing a “thing of value that could amount to a contribution under campaign finance law.”

Under the law, prosecutors had to prove that the value of the promised documents and information exceeded a $2,000 threshold to bring a criminal charge, as well as the $25,000 threshold for a felony, but it’s difficult to put a monetary figure on information.

“Although damaging opposition research is surely valuable to a campaign, it appears the information ultimately delivered in the meeting was not valuable,” the report said.


Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:41 pm to
He said that it likely violated campaign finance law, but it would be difficult to prove because there was no way to establish the value of such a thing.

It is, however, still illegal to accept foreign $$ of any amount for a federal election. Even if the help Russia gave Trump's campaign was worth $1, that's a felony. But ignorance of the law saved him there.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35027 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:42 pm to
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BamaAtl


Baby back cunt is afraid to answer. Come on little crawfishing slut.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:45 pm to
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He said that it likely violated campaign finance law
No, he did not. Please tell me on what page of the Mueller report he says that. He explained his reasoning for not indicting:


1) uncompensated opposition research has never been treated as something of value by law enforcement

2) there wasn't actually any valuable information exchanged.

3) ignorance of the law (hrc defense)
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:49 pm to
LINK

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The investigation has not developed evidence that the participants in the meeting were familiar with the foreign-contribution ban or the application of federal law to the relevant factual context.


Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:51 pm to
Your boss isn't being deported.

You are
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 10:54 pm to
That doesn't answer my question. That was merely one reason why Mueller did not indict. He explained in the report why the counsel did not believe the meeting amounted to illegality.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 11:45 pm to
Bc they are citizens and that is unconstitutional. Brilliant question.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 6:31 am to
What makes you think that such people have any greater loyalty to their family than they do their country?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:44 am to
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That was merely one reason why Mueller did not indict


Which is the reason I cited, genius.

And why I cited it. Because it was correct.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:47 am to
Is a thread based on the absurd concept of "deporting" American citizens for a crime still going?



Come on
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8643 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 8:56 am to
I can tell you that when you use E-Verify when hiring someone, the Govt can't even verify that person is legal. You make no sense!!!!!!!!! If we are following the rules, and the Govt can't even do their job on the website for us, how can you hold us accountable?
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