re: Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?

PS...did anybody see a video showing Hamas beating civilians who wanted to leave a bombing target...forcing them to stay? I heard somewhere that it exist, but I don't know.

If it does, that ought to end the whole collateral damage/Israel bad argument. If the World condemned Hamas...they'd quit this crap.

Okay, I stand corrected Iosh. Though what always is a sticking point for me is that yes at one level it is about who has the territory but the deeper level seems to be who has the territory to the total exclusion of the other. It is way too late for that. So how will there ever be a solution?

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And I'll add to that that most genocides took place where religion, especially Christianity, was absent, and in some cases, prohibited.

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The Spanish Inquisition

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The Spanish Inquisition

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You do understand the difference between the word "most" and the word "all", dont you ??

In fact, it's really quite remarkable how closely the Burmese Buddhists copy the Israeli playbook when it comes to their own inconvenient Muslim minority:

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In a country that’s still being hailed in the West for its tilt toward democracy, the ongoing blockade on critical aid to more than 100,000 displaced Rohingya around Sittwe — and thousands elsewhere in Rakhine state — amounts to a crime against humanity, rights groups say.

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For years, the Rohingya have been denied citizenship in Buddhist-majority Burma, and have faced severe restrictions on marriage, employment, health care and education. Now, it seems, the Burmese authorities are determined to starve and sicken the Rohingya out of existence.

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Burma’s government refuses to recognize its 1.3 million Rohingya as citizens. Though Rohingya have lived in the Buddhist-majority country for generations, they are widely, and affectedly, referred to as Bengalis, to convey the false impression that they are intruders from neighboring Bangladesh. “There is no such thing as ‘Rohingya,’” insists U Pynya Sa Mi, the head of a monastery in Sittwe.

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The Spanish Inquisition

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So more people were killed during the Spanish Inquisition than by Stalin or Mao?

You fricking idiot

lol, and the Palestinians do? The word Palestine comes for the latin word Palestina, which was latin for Philistine who were the Jews greatest enemy in the Old Test. The Hebrew word for Philistine is Palashtem which means foreign invader. In addition, Arabic has no P sound. So they replaced it with an F sound.

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So more people were killed during the Spanish Inquisition than by Stalin or Mao?

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Link to where I said that. I'm just saying that Christianity was a tyrannical religion for a thousand years. It's the biggest scam of all time. They kept Europe in the dark ages for hundreds of years. Only priests and monks were allowed to read or write. They kept knowledge from the people in order to keep power. Any scientist or person that said anything contrary to what the priests believed like Copernicus was exiled, imprisoned or killed. Christianity has killed millions in medieval times on charges of heresy. I'm not even going to mention the colonization of the Americas and the crusades.

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You fricking idiot

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School yard name calling. The ultimate display of desperation

That's a good point losh. I think the Burmese are much more oppressive and militarized than the other southeastern countries though. They didn't even allow photography until ten years ago. They are slowly becoming more progressive. In thailand, Laos, India, etc they are at peace with one another.

Millions and millions more have been killed in the name of the silly superstitious western religions than eastern religions (not really religions by definition, no deities, which is why they're better). Thanks for posting that though.


Eta: Daoism ftw

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Okay, I stand corrected Iosh. Though what always is a sticking point for me is that yes at one level it is about who has the territory but the deeper level seems to be who has the territory to the total exclusion of the other. It is way too late for that. So how will there ever be a solution?

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Scenario 1: Bibi, or Israel collectively, comes to their senses, starts working with the Palestinian unity government and rolls back the blockade, which hasn't accomplished anything except to inflict a lot of suffering on people who aren't Hamas. Two states are established along the lines of Olmert's 2008 napkin map with a very limited right of return for 1948-ers who have, like, an actual street address, and cash remuneration for any claims weaker than that.

Scenario 2: Israel keeps Hamas bottled up and the West Bank in perpetually divisible bantustans. The two-state window passes, and the world eventually loses its patience with "occupation" ambiguities as the settlements grow. You essentially get a repeat of the South Africa scenario, with Israel as a pariah and America as the last holdout. One-state solution with ironclad constitutional guarantees for secularism, equal rights, and freedom of worship.

Scenario 3: One side wipes out the other in some horrifying episode of ethnic cleansing that sounds like something out of the 19th century, and our grandkids read their textbooks and ask us why we rang up a hundred billion dollars of their national debt behind this bullshite.