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Why does the idea of a “peaceful” protest have to always be glorified?

Posted on 5/31/20 at 7:50 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101404 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 7:50 am
I can acknowledge you have the RIGHT to do something. I can still say that something is pointless or even stupid, while still acknowledging your right.

In this case it seems hard to conclude that the idea of “protesting” is anything but completely stupid - certainly by now. Yet, every condemnation of what is going on seems to have to be prefaced by this notion that we must first laud those who just want to “peaceably protest.” Why? What could they possibly be seen to be accomplishing at this point?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 7:58 am to
Apparently the men who wrote our Constitution thought that peacably assembling was important enough to guarantee us the right to do it.

Apparently Ghandi thought it was powerful enough to bring down the British Empire's control over India.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101404 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:02 am to
And I’m glad they did. That doesn’t mean every instance anyone wants to do it must be glorified. My point is there are plenty of things we have the “right” to do that are stupid. The right to do something doesn’t always make it otherwise.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32683 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:03 am to
They don't want you to make generalizations when you see video of a black person committing a violent crime. Those are outliers. They DO want you to generalize when you see a video of a white person committing a violent crime. Those incidents are completely representative of an entire race.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 8:04 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Apparently the men who wrote our Constitution thought that peacably assembling was important enough to guarantee us the right to do it.

Apparently Ghandi thought it was powerful enough to bring down the British Empire's control over India.




That is irrelevant to this discussion.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50164 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:05 am to
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Apparently the men who wrote our Constitution thought that peacably assembling was important enough to guarantee us the right to do it.



Would you call the American Revolution peaceful, though? It seems like peace doesn’t yield results.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50164 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:06 am to
quote:

They don't want you to make generalizations when you see video of a black person committing a violent crime. Those are outliers. They DO want you to generalize when you see a video of a white person committing a violent crime. Those incidents are completely representative of an entire race.


A white police officer killing a black person after he complied is the issue.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17477 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:07 am to
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This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 11:17 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:07 am to
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It seems like peace doesn’t yield results.


of course it doesn't. any peace movement that succeeded did so when outside factors made violence (of the stronger side) too expensive

leftists now acknowledging that power and strength is how you affect change and justify existential paradigms is cute

wonder if they apply this logic to their stance on israel/palestine finally
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50164 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:08 am to
The March for Life is a peaceful protest held annually.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:08 am to
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A white police officer killing a black person after he complied is the issue.



No it is not. That is an excuse
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50164 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:08 am to
quote:

wonder if they apply this logic to their stance on israel/palestine finally


Is that really relevant to this discussion though?
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:09 am to
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Apparently the men who wrote our Constitution thought that peacably assembling was important enough to guarantee us the right to do it.

True enough.
But not every peaceful protest is noble or good.
But even arseholes with crappy causes have the right to parade their ignorance in public.

The Constitution doesn’t give you the right to stop commerce, burn and damage property, break and enter, steal, assault individuals, and block roads. And when someone conflates the two as equal and the same, they perpetuate and promote evil.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32683 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:09 am to
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A white police officer killing a black person after he complied is the issue.

Exactly. Notice how you didn't even include names and just referred to each party by their race? Why would you do that? Why does the media do that? They want us to generalize when we see one crime committed by a white person. Why don't we do that when races are reversed. Because it would be ridiculous right?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:10 am to
Is your constant appeal to the American revolution any different?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:11 am to
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Is that really relevant to this discussion though?

a discussion about how power, not protests, affects actual change? that was your segue
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64660 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 8:15 am to
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Would you call the American Revolution peaceful, though? It seems like peace doesn’t yield results.


The British shot and killed the protestors. Next.
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