re: Why docs don’t want patients taking Ivermectin

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How long after the vax was this?

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One day to 9 months. Seems strongest with Pfizer. My partner didn't believe me. Went into a nerdy diatribe about some bullshite. Stuck it on his arm. Stuck GOOD. Just looked at him and said, "Splain that Mr. Smarty pants."
He couldn't. Won't talk about it. I told him to go do some research on the explanation. There is none. I won't venture as to what does it, but it works.

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I saw somebody post that there were stainless steel particles found in the vaccine, but it must be something else.

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I don't think that was a legitimate source. I won't comment on what or why because I don't know. Have seen things about graphene oxide but know nothing about it. Anyone can try it. Obviously a stronger magnet like the small rare earth ones I used will work better, but some you can still a small paperclip to.

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So you're not familiar with the "pencil skirt" young pretty women who bring and "bribe" so to speak doctors into using/prescribing their drugs instead of competitors? Age ole game of sales. There is a vested interest in one being used rather than the others.

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Those "pencil skirts" also set up married doctors, usually while at "all expenses paid" medical conferences. They get pics or videos to blackmail the ones who won't cooperate.

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The better question to ask is why won't some doctors write it?

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Mine would not. Said there wasn’t enough data to support it. I told him Governor Greg Abbott is opening centers all over Texas and I’m sure his team of experts has done more research than you. I told that a-hole that I need him to write the GD order, but in a very non PC way. He wrote/faxed the order. I still want to hurt him!

Just yesterday took my wife to a local hospital. 100 person wait at 08:30. Called another hospital 80 miles away and they had availability. Drove to the medical facility (wife went there day before) to ask the doc to call this facility to get her in. He refused. He would not call under any circumstances. I don’t remember the exact wording but something along the lines of they are not contracted with that hospital. I came unglued bigly.

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Our local doctors are constantly flooded with visits from drug reps. When they visit, they bring breakfast/lunch, for the entire staff,

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Drug companies buy food to get their foot in the door. Some offices refuse to let a rep in without it. My wife is in a big practice. They specifically only let reps in if they bring the entire office lunch to prevent the reps from dropping by for 10 minutes and bothering them between patients. It keeps a lot of them away. It’s a perk for the office staff- they have free lunch 2-3 days a week. And none of the doctors are dumb enough to fall for pushy marketing and bad studies.

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drug specific labeled office supply items, and various other advertising items such as t-shirts etc. Drug reps are professional lobbyists.

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This has been illegal for over a decade. And you can look up exactly the value of what each physician has received in monetary compensation from each specific drug company since the passage of the Sunshine Act.



Personally- we rarely do lunches. I’m usually busy during lunch. Reps drop by sometimes. Sometimes they bring snacks. Sometimes they bring lunch.
There’s no amount of food, cute girls, older guys, etc that is going to convince me to write expensive stuff over cheap stuff when there are similar meds. I may be more likely to reach for the sample that’s in the closet and write this one initially vs that one (when speaking of two “expensive” ones for which there is no solid alternative, ex: SGLT2 inhibitors) because it’s in stock. I usually tell the patient, “here’s what we have. I’m going to send this one. If your insurance company doesn’t like it, I’ll send one just like it.” I have never received a dime in kickbacks, unless you count the snacks as a form of a kickback, I suppose. Usually I make sure they know what the staff wants- I rarely partake. Sometimes they tell me “thanks” when I write a script. Usually they annoy the fire out of me while I’m trying to see patients. We let the ones who have been around forever continue to come by. We don’t see new ones. They have requirements on how many offices they need to go to per day/week/etc. they are generally good people, and it’s usually just a job to them. Some of them are annoying. We don’t let them back again.

In a small way, I do like when they peddle “new” stuff or upcoming stuff. It’s when I usually will go out and spend a good bit of time reading trials on it + its 3 competitors that I didn’t know about to see if they look interesting. I throw all the pamphlets away within a few minutes of them walking out the door.

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This has been illegal for over a decade. And you can look up exactly the value of what each physician has received in monetary compensation from each specific drug company since the passage of the Sunshine Act.

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I’m not disagreeing with you on this aspect. I do know that my friend, a local practitioner, constantly has different med specific sticky notes and pens on his desk. I’m sure some small gift bag kind of stuff gets left off once in awhile. Otherwise, I’m not sure how he gets that stuff. I will ask if Ida recovery allows us to have HS football soon. I coach his son.

When we travel to our wholesaler’s trade show, we are flooded with ‘free’ stuff from different vendors including pharmaceutical companies. It’s mainly pens and sticky notes. Once, one company was handing out counting trays and asked how many we needed. I said 6, 4 for stations with 2 spares. The guy handed me a case(24). All med specific.

Are your conventions like this with the ‘free’ branded stuff?

Anyway, thanks for the reply. I’ve enjoyed your posts in this thread. Any conversation outside of the people staying with you is good during storm recovery.

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My wife owns a pharmacy and is the Pharmacist in Charge (PIC).

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Lol. Your wife owns a pharmacy and you’re worried about t-shirts to doctors. How much of a bonus does she get from the drug companies?