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re: Why do we have ‘registered sex offenders’?

Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:43 am to
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:43 am to
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I already acknowledged they aren't the norm or even common.


Its virtually nonexistent, and even if it was real, why not fix the one small issue instead of abolishing the registry entirely? It’s like saying parachutes are bad because one time a guy got strangled in the cord.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39190 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:43 am to
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..AS a parent, i want to know when there is someone convicted of this living near my children.

As someone who doesn't want to be robbed, I want to know all the convicted burglars around me. Why can't I know that? Legally speaking these people have paid their dues to the state. Why do you as a parent have the right to even more justice?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:46 am to
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Its virtually nonexistent
And again, there's that word.

My issue is that the sentence you just wrote should not have the middle word.

quote:

why not fix the one small issue instead of abolishing the registry entirely?
I'm almost certain I didn't say abolish the entire registry.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:47 am to
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As someone who doesn't want to be robbed, I want to know all the convicted burglars around me. Why can't I know that? Legally speaking these people have paid their dues to the state. Why do you as a parent have the right to even more justice?


And I tend to agree with this.

My biggest issue with the registry is inclusion of people who really shouldn't be on it(even if rare).

But, overall, it's problematic for the reason you stated.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:52 am to
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This implies these people still pose some threat to society. So why are they allowed back into society?


Because there’s basically nothing more unAmerican than “we’re keeping you locked up past your sentence because of something we think you might do”.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:54 am to
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Because there’s basically nothing more unAmerican than “we’re keeping you locked up past your sentence because of something we think you might do”.



Alas, I think what you could have written better is
quote:

Because there’s basically nothing more unAmerican than “we’re [b]going to continue punishing you[b/] past your sentence because of something we think you might d


I mean, clearly, being on those registries is still punishment.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:55 am to
Because our legal system refuses to hang those who need hanging.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:56 am to
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Because there’s basically nothing more unAmerican than “we’re keeping you locked up past your sentence because of something we think you might do”.


Unfortunately, looking at the recidivism rates from the dept of justice, most criminals will reoffend (a whopping 2/3rds will within 5 years).
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:57 am to
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I mean, clearly, being on those registries is still punishment.


Good point, despite the court systems absurd rulings that it’s not a punishment.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 11:58 am to
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Despite what the internet says, our legal system is extremely lenient.

Relative to what exactly?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:04 pm to
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sex offenders’

You aren't officially one unless you register brah
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:43 pm to
The threat is minimized by letting everyone know who they are.

When I was 6, the supervisor of maintenance of our 16 buildings occupying a city block was involved in child molestation.
After he was back at work all kids knew to stay clear of him.
Word spread like wildfire.

This was before registration and computers.
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2854 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Unfortunately, looking at the recidivism rates from the dept of justice, most criminals will reoffend (a whopping 2/3rds will within 5 years).


When you put people on a list that essentially assures they will never have a chance to be hired for a job, is it really a shock that these people that have nothing but free time and no future to look forward to offend again?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:54 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 6:39 pm
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 12:56 pm to
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If you are a child molester, you SHOULD be killed.
an 18 yr old should be killed for screwing his 16 yr old gf

cause that's how the law sees it.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9286 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:28 pm to
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As someone who doesn't want to be robbed, I want to know all the convicted burglars around me. Why can't I know that? Legally speaking these people have paid their dues to the state. Why do you as a parent have the right to even more justice?


I think it's more likely that a burglar was rehabbed in prison, than a pedophile has been rehabbed in prison...have you ever heard of a pedo quitting it like a smoking habit?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:51 pm to
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This implies these people still pose some threat to society. So why are they allowed back into society?


I see a lot of this kind of stuff on Facebook. It seems that people have lost the concept of crime and punishment. When you're convicted of a crime, you receive a sentence. Whether that sentence is 15 minutes, or 15 years, once you've served that sentence, they can no longer hold a person in jail legally. I'm sure there are avenues to getting additional judgments against a particular person, but apparently being a child molesting piece of trash only matters if they are moving into the judge or lawyers neighborhood, because they turn them loose at even a level 4, which is stated as a high likelihood of re-offending.

It's why we need the death penalty for most, if not all child molesters.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 2:57 pm to
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As someone who doesn't want to be robbed, I want to know all the convicted burglars around me. Why can't I know that? Legally speaking these people have paid their dues to the state. Why do you as a parent have the right to even more justice?



So, would you support allowing children to arm themselves for protection? Because most adults can do just that. It's not the parents that have the right to even more justice, it's for the innocent and vulnerable.
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