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re: Why do the Jews in the US continue to vote democrat?

Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:22 pm to
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I thought that's why we liked Israel? Because they were the most white nation in the ME


Jews are white to everyone but those who push Anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:25 pm to
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Jews are white to everyone but those who push Anti-Semitic rhetoric.


Jews are white when it's convenient, or when they need to criticize white people.

I don't ever see any Jewish people standing up for Europe, or white people in general. Quite the opposite.

Jews are generally anti-white.
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:29 pm to
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Jews are white when it's convenient, or when they need to criticize white people. I don't ever see any Jewish people standing up for Europe, or white people in general. Quite the opposite. Jews are generally anti-white.


I think we all can agree that Jews are Semitic, which is Middle Eastern. Moreover, Christianity was a sect of Messianic Judaism that Westerners (see: "white people") stole, although it was never intended to be a Western/Roman belief system. It is stolen identity, if you really want to get technical. Perhaps Helenism and Druidism can be reconstructed to give Indo-European peoples a belief system that is of their own.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:30 pm to
you have some odd friends then, because I know plenty of Jews who aren't like that.

I can recommend several economists and historians that are Jewish that you might appreciate.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84716 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Christianity was a sect of Messianic Judaism that Westerners (see: "white people") stole, although it was never intended to be a Western/Roman belief system. It is stolen identity, if you really want to get technical

Westerners "stole" Christianity? What does this mean?
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:50 pm to
The overwhelming majority of US Jews live in large metro areas and vote Democratic or liberal like their neighbors.
Posted by Mrs. Amaro
Uptown Shreveport
Member since Nov 2004
3660 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:51 pm to
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Why do the Jews in the US continue to vote democrat?


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It's a simple group survival strategy. Jews living in the USA, UK, Germany, etc realize that they will always be minorities in these countries, so they advocate for open borders and multiculturalism so that there won't be one dominant ethnic group to potentially persecute them. In a nation filled with many races pushing for their own interests, it will be difficult for Jews to be singled out for discrimination. However, Jews oppose these same policies in Israel and support fortified border walls, extremely strict immigration, and sterilization of refugees because they constitute the dominant ethnic group. Jews understand the value of homogeneity, so they do everything they can to preserve it in Israel while attempting to undermine homogeneity in countries where they will never be the majority. And I actually have to applaud them for their sagacity and success in implementing this strategy.


Best answer I've ever heard to this question...Bravo
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 3:57 pm to
I think European Jews will eventually regret the Muslim migration once the percentage of Muslims in the population rises a bit higher.
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:03 pm to
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Westerners "stole" Christianity? What does this mean?


I mean Christianity was intended to be a sect of Judaism, which the Jews obviously rejected, since there have been many Messianic movements similar to the one Yeshua (Jesus) started (eg. Zevi and Frank). The movement failed to convert Jews, and his apostles went around converting Gentiles afterwards. Matthew 15: 21-28 Jesus refers to the Canaanite woman, a Gentile, as a dog, because his duty was to the people of Israel, not the Gentiles.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:12 pm to
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It's a simple group survival strategy. Jews living in the USA, UK, Germany, etc realize that they will always be minorities in these countries, so they advocate for open borders and multiculturalism so that there won't be one dominant ethnic group to potentially persecute them. In a nation filled with many races pushing for their own interests, it will be difficult for Jews to be singled out for discrimination.

However, Jews oppose these same policies in Israel and support fortified border walls, extremely strict immigration, and sterilization of refugees because they constitute the dominant ethnic group. Jews understand the value of homogeneity, so they do everything they can to preserve it in Israel while attempting to undermine homogeneity in countries where they will never be the majority. And I actually have to applaud them for their sagacity and success in implementing this strategy.


Did you get this from stormfront or AmRen?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84716 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:20 pm to
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mean Christianity was intended to be a sect of Judaism, which the Jews obviously rejected, since there have been many Messianic movements similar to the one Yeshua (Jesus) started (eg. Zevi and Frank). The movement failed to convert Jews, and his apostles went around converting Gentiles afterwards

So Christianity was brought to the gentiles, not stolen.
This post was edited on 12/27/16 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22020 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:20 pm to
According to anti Semites everywhere, Jews run Hollywood & Wall Street. Unless I am missing something, Hollywood & Wall Street are overwhelmingly white. Why does the Academy Awards, every year, nominate white actors & actresses by a large majority? When is the last time a Wall Street banker gave a major loan to a black client?
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:45 pm to
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So Christianity was brought to the gentiles, not stolen.


Brought to Gentiles by Paul and the Apostles, not Christ. The burden of proof as to whether Christ changed his mind after his crucifixion and death on earth is on you, since the living Jesus made it specifically clear not to convert Gentiles. Gentiles were less than dogs and not worthy of the crumbs, if you read the passage.

Jews and other Middle Eastern populations understand this, and that is why they don't really take white Christians that seriously and see our culture as somewhat of a gimmick and as stolen valor.
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 4:51 pm to
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The overwhelming majority of US Jews live in large metro areas and vote Democratic or liberal like their neighbors.


It seems a big reason for the divide in this country is that certain segments of the population resort to "tribalism", & vote in lock-step with each other without looking at the issues objectively.

Others view themselves as AMERICANS first, and put America's interests as a whole over the perceived benefits of their "tribe".
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17546 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 5:08 pm to
And then he cured her demon possessed daughter because of her faith...

I guess you forgot to read 28
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 5:13 pm to
I'm not a Christian, but the Bible records Jesus telling his followers multiple times after the resurrection to go and spread the gospels to all peoples and nations.

So, if one is to believe the Bible, they did what they were told to do.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84716 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 5:16 pm to
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Brought to Gentiles by Paul and the Apostles, not Chris

Ok, but this is not the same as "stolen"
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The burden of proof as to whether Christ changed his mind after his crucifixion and death on earth is on you, since the living Jesus made it specifically clear not to convert Gentiles. Gentiles were less than dogs and not worthy of the crumbs, if you read the passage.

I understand this. And i don't like to speak in absolutes when it comes to what Jesus thought or desired. There are contradictions in the gospels and a dearth of non-biblical sources. Nothing is ever so simple. for example right there in Matthew 28:18, Jesus commands his disciples to preach to ALL nations. And this was an early debate between Paul and the Jerusalem disciples.
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Jews and other Middle Eastern populations understand this, and that is why they don't really take white Christians that seriously and see our culture as somewhat of a gimmick and as stolen valo

This may be true at least amongst the Jews. Although it would be silly for Muslims to hold this view, if they indeed do.

I think for the Jews who scoff at Christianity, it's less a case of "white people taking a middle eastern religion and bastardizing it" than "Christianity is based on the idea of a defeated and resurrected spiritual messiah which is utter nonsense because there is no basis for this in scripture and we certainly know scripture."
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84716 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 5:20 pm to
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I'm not a Christian, but the Bible records Jesus telling his followers multiple times after the resurrection to go and spread the gospels to all peoples and nations.

Right. The gospels have been debated for millennia and people still can't agree on what Jesus really said or believed or wanted. There are new books written every year due to this.
Posted by red racker
Independence, MO
Member since Dec 2016
265 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 5:22 pm to
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I'm not a Christian, but the Bible records Jesus telling his followers multiple times after the resurrection to go and spread the gospels to all peoples and nations.


That seems to be the dilemma for most people that have doubts. Some people believe it may refer only to Jewish people within all nations and among all peoples.

At any rate, the Mideast has always considered Westerners, including Greeks, Galatians (Celts) and Romans as a parasitic colonial presence. They probably feel this way since Western civilization was a fabrication of earlier civilizations (e.g., Persian and Egyptian)that the Greeks and Romans looted. To them we are Barbarians, and the Chinese of the Middle Kingdom thought the same way about Westerners.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84716 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 5:26 pm to
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To them we are Barbarians

Bastards. This really offends me.
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