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re: Why do Illegal Immigrants Get The Same Constitutional Rights As American Citizens?
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments all apply to anyone on our soil.
Thats a VERY liberal interpretation of our constitution based on passages that bracket the ones you selected. And since its not specific language, its subject to overturning. See Roe
The bracketed language in question follows:
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Preamble
We the People of the United States
of Liberty to ourselves
and our Posterity
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1st Amendment
or the right of the people (as specified in the preamble)
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2nd Amendment
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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9th Amendment
shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
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10th Amendment
are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Its pretty clear from the preamble to the bill of rights "the people" are defined as US citizens, and not just anyone on our soil. And the 11th Amendment clears that up nicely. And "we the people" wanted to make it very clear that citizenship should mean something in the application of the constitution, by making it the fastest amendment ever adopted. Not just to anyone on our soil
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Amendment XI
The judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another state, or by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:13 pm to TigerSprings
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The Declaration of Independence, strongly suggests that they do.
Curious as to how you arrived at this? Were the "Indian Savages" considered citizens, i.e., part of the "one people?"
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:17 pm to AggieHank86
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I have exactly ZERO doubt that I understand the Constitution FAR better than you do.
Often wrong but rarely in doubt.
You go, girl.
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:34 pm to i am dan
quote:I strongly suggest that you do a bit of research on the number of 5:4 decisions from the Court, versus the number of unanimous decisions and 8:1 decisions.
There's a reason USSC votes usually go down the political line. People "understand" things how they want to "understand" things.. and that's primarily based on your political affiliation.
You will find that the latter constitute the VAST majority of Supreme Court decisions. I am not taking the time to look it up, but my recollection is that it’s close to 90%.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:36 pm to lake chuck fan
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Eat another dick
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:59 pm to RobbBobb
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Its pretty clear from the preamble to the bill of rights "the people" are defined as US citizens
It is not clear.
That's why the Supreme Court has ruled the way it has consistently on the issue.
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. And the 11th Amendment clears that up nicely.
The 11th Amendment has nothing to do with this argument, but your ignorance of Constitutional law and inability to read was already assumed.
The 11th Amendment regulates lawsuits against states by persons not citizen of the state being sued. It has nothing to do with any other Constitutional rights. It was ratified to specifically reverse the ruling in Chisholm v. Georgia.
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