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re: Why do areas almost 100% white lean heavily left and communist.

Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
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I think you’ll find that education level is the most common way of differentiating who in society is considered more educated.


Only if you're a moron.

No one in real life thinks a 4 year degree from Southern = a 4 year degree from Harvard in terms of being "educated".
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:16 pm to
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It's basically the ultimate proof of the Starbuck's barista with a graduate degree cliche'!


Is that even a cliche' at this point?
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:18 pm to
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There’s no ready available objective way to measure intelligence for polling purposes, so there’s no way to prove who the most intelligent people vote for.
Actually, there is.

You show me two groups of 50K people.

Group 1 has a median income of 50K

Group 2 has a median income of 150K

Group 2 will be composed of smarter people pretty much without exception.

Sure. There will be smart people and dumb people in both groups. But group 1 ain't winning any GROUP tests of education, knowledge or intelligence.

EVER.
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:24 pm to
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But you agree that even stupid people can be "educated", correct?


Yup. Educated people can be dumb, and uneducated people can be geniuses.

However, scientific studies have shown that “Intelligence test scores and educational duration are positively correlated.” LINK
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:27 pm to
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No one in real life thinks a 4 year degree from Southern = a 4 year degree from Harvard in terms of being "educated".


You’re talking about quality. If they both had BA degrees, unless you were specifically controlling for education quality, almost every polling would consider those two people to have the same education level.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:28 pm to
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However, scientific studies have shown that “Intelligence test scores and educational duration are positively correlated.


Cool....

Now, be honest: You and your fellow Libs love pushing the notion that Trump voters are idiots whilst Democrat voters are smart, yet you can't really prove it, correct?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Yup. Educated people can be dumb, and uneducated people can be geniuses.

However, scientific studies have shown that “Intelligence test scores and educational duration are positively correlated


At this point you are just faking stupidity to preserve your false narrative.

Yes they are correlated

Income is also correlated

So if you want to figure out within either group which one's voted which way you need more than just the overall group number

But you know that. It's why you're avoiding half of the point.

Typical liberal. Incapable of rhetorical honesty
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:29 pm to
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almost every polling would consider those two people to have the same education level.


Yet another reason INTELLIGENT people don't live and die by the Gospel of the Pollsters.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:29 pm to
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You’re talking about quality

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If they both had BA degrees, unless you were specifically controlling for education quality, almost every polling would consider those two people to have the same education level

But exactly zero people in real life would consider them equally educated.

I get it you're going to keep lying so there's no sense in continuing this. I'm used to piece of shite liberals lying. It's what you do
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Steadmans


Still it is funny that even using your interpretation the only conclusion one can come to is that somehow despite having more education liberals are too stupid to earn more than their theoretically uneducated counterparts

That's kind of sad.
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:32 pm to
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So if you want to figure out within either group which one's voted which way you need more than just the overall group number


The differences in vote by income level is pretty marginal in Trumps favor, literally within 1-2% for each substrata of people with incomes over about ~$150K. It’s much different by education level, as pointed out earlier.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:33 pm to
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The differences in vote by income level is pretty marginal in Trumps favor,


And, ALL Republican's favor.

You couldn't even manage to win the income quintiles in a race in which you won the popular vote AND the states with the highest overall income levels.

I mean, that's a fail on a spectacular level!
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:34 pm to
Because they are naive and lacking any experience with any actual diversity.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:34 pm to
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It’s much different by education level, as pointed out earlier.
Which actually makes my point.

You morons manage to WAY outdistance your counterparts in parchment, still can't win the income race.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:41 pm to
You are seriously ate up with dumbass.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:43 pm to
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That was West Virginia and Oklahoma. It doesn't get much whiter than that.


I give ya WV, but OK is only 65% white.
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:44 pm to
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You morons manage to WAY outdistance your counterparts in parchment, still can't win the income race


I think you fundamentally misunderstood my original post; you and ooga have inserted a narrative I have not attempted to make. The OP was wondering why white voters chose Trump. I simply pointed out that OP was focused on the wrong aspect of the electorate that would clear up his confusion as to why states like Maine VT and NH voted blue even though they’re white.

It’s just facts:

If you finished college, you voted against Trump by a wide margin.
If you’re rich, it’s a toss up who you vote for (except the ultra-wealthy, like Forbes list)

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:49 pm to
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Why do areas almost 100% white lean heavily left and communist


Not sure if this is true.

But the communist, self loathing white people suffer from guilt at having had an easy life with no struggle.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:50 pm to
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I think you fundamentally misunderstood my original post; you and ooga have inserted a narrative I have not attempted to make.



Bwhahahahahaaa.....that's a lie....
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:48 pm to
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like Idaho or Montana? what the hell are you talking about


I think the OP was thinking of the northeast and not the more rural parts of the USA. I would say that one factor that points to a place being a liberal hotspot is the number of people with higher education levels. Places like Boston tend to have a higher percentage of people with college degrees than other places.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:58 pm
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