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re: Why do areas almost 100% white lean heavily left and communist.

Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
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All I can do is cite accurate stats.


So, you are too stupid to realize how stupid your post is?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:38 pm to
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All I can do is cite accurate stats.


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All I can do is cite ..... stats.


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All I can do is cite stats that someone assure me are accurate....
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:47 pm to
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I know you are just using general terms and aren’t implying that having a college degree makes you more educated on issues, but I still cringe at the “educated/uneducated” nomenclature.


This is totally fair; it’s just easier than typing out “with a four-year college degree or above”
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:49 pm to
The most diverse states and cities are the most conservative????! You inhaling meth, man???? The opposite is true.
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:52 pm to
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All I can do is cite stats that someone assure me are accurate....


It’s obviously true that I didn’t actually conduct the polling myself.

I’m open to seeing any flaws in that poll’s results. Do you have any reliable polling indicating white voters with a four-year degree voted more for Trump, or are you just dismissing facts that don’t fit your narrative?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:55 pm to
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All I can do is cite accurate stats.


Which means that you don't understand that in order to interpret a stat correctly, you have to know the question ti is answering.

If the question is, "who has more degrees", you found the right answer. Alas, you applied the wrong question tot he answer.

So. Congratulations. You're easily manipulated because you don't know how to ask questions yourself.

Don't feel bad. You're like almost everyone when it comes to stats. But, you can still desire to do better.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:58 pm to
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It’s obviously true that I didn’t actually conduct the polling myself. I’m open to seeing any flaws in that poll’s results


There's actually nothing wrong with the results. It's the interpretation that's false.

Pro-tip. When someone tells you that a stat says a thing, that doesn't actually MEAN it says that thing. You need to apply your own intellect to the task or you can be easily manipulated.

A bright person seeing that stat would IMMEDIATELY at the very least say, "wait, so in this stat, all 4 year degrees are being measured as equal...…..is that a reflection of reality?"
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:03 pm to
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There's actually nothing wrong with the results. It's the interpretation that's false.


My interpretation that two people who have four year college degrees have equal education levels is wrong?

Two different people could have gotten more out of school, have different intelligence levels, or have different amounts of knowledge, but the commonly used term “education level” pretty plainly refers to years of schooling or highest degree obtained.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:04 pm to
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If the question is, "who has more degrees", you found the right answer.


People who have degrees are ALWAYS more intelligent that people without degrees, no exceptions.

At least that's what I was told by people with degrees.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:05 pm to
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The most diverse states and cities are the most conservative?






A lot of diversity in those red states.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:07 pm to
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My interpretation that two people who have four year college degrees have equal education levels is wrong?


Wow. Do you even have to really ask that?
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Two different people could have gotten more out of school, have different intelligence levels, or have different amounts of knowledge, but the commonly used term “education level” pretty plainly refers to years of schooling or highest degree obtained.


"Education level" and "Educated" aren't the same thing.

Honestly, I shouldn't have to explain that fact to you.

Bottom line. To believe that liberals are more "educated", you literally have to believe that income is inversely related to education.

Because yeah. THAT stat is real too! A stat that every last liberal who ever argued for education funding already knows and makes every day.

There is literally no way to interpret voting by income level AND education level and conclude that the left is the "most educated".

Frankly, everyone who ever says it is either a liar or an idiot who the liar is targeting.
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:09 pm to
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People who have degrees are ALWAYS more intelligent that people without degrees, no exceptions.


You’re arguing with ghosts. I said “educated” not “intelligent”. There’s no ready available objective way to measure intelligence for polling purposes, so there’s no way to prove who the most intelligent people vote for.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:11 pm to
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People who have degrees are ALWAYS more intelligent that people without degrees, no exceptions. At least that's what I was told by people with degrees.

Honestly, it's not even about degree/no-degree

People who propagate the stat clearly intend to argue that one group is more educated and by extension, smarter.

Once you realize that the stat being used to support that conclusion treats ALL 4 year degrees as equal, you should immediately have questions.

When you ask those, you should then, of course wonder, "how in the frick is the "smartest" group the one that only dominates the lowest income quintile in voting"??????
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:11 pm to
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You’re arguing with ghosts. I said “educated” not “intelligent”. There’s no ready available objective way to measure intelligence for polling purposes, so there’s no way to prove who the most intelligent people vote for.


And you're being dishonest.

The whole purpose of those stats is to further the false narrative that Dems = smart, Republicans = dumb....
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 7:40 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:12 pm to
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You’re arguing with ghosts. I said “educated” not “intelligent”. There’s no ready available objective way to measure intelligence for polling purposes, so there’s no way to prove who the most intelligent people vote for.


OK

So. You dominate the idiots with degrees. I'm good with your interpretation.

Thanks.
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:13 pm to
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"Education level" and "Educated" aren't the same thing.


I think you’ll find that education level is the most common way of differentiating who in society is considered more educated.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:14 pm to
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There’s no ready available objective way to measure intelligence for polling purposes,


It's funny that you Leftists LOOOOVE to paint Conservatives as idiots, but would zhit your pants at the notion of having voters pass a basic literacy test in order to be eligible to vote.....

If basic arithmetic and spelling were a voting requirement, you'd lose 2/3 of your Urban base.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:14 pm to
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And you're being dishonest. The whole purpose of those stats is to further the false narrative that Dems = smart, Republicans = dumb....


Honestly, his interpretation is pretty horrific for liberals.

Think about it. We KNOW that education level is related to income level in this country.

If you are the people with the most degrees and you can only dominate the lowest income quintile, do you realize how pathetic that is?

It's basically the ultimate proof of the Starbuck's barista with a graduate degree cliche'!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:15 pm to
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I think you’ll find that education level is the most common way of differentiating who in society is considered more educated.


But you agree that even stupid people can be "educated", correct?

Again, you are playing a game here and the game is the age old Leftist trope of Demsmart Publicanstupid...
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