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re: Why didn't the Hard Rock building collapse like WTC building 7?

Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:05 pm to
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That has nothing to do with the questions I've asked.


Sure it does.

It means you can light a building on fire to ignite thermite to cut beams therefore being cleared from the building before it collapses.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55603 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:09 pm to
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you will have some partial sizes down to the nano level




Define the "nano level". You should never be believed in any thread ever again. Holy shite!
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2497 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:11 pm to
Than ground zero. Ground zero was a dust pile.

https://youtu.be/HJzGLrXf1M8

https://youtu.be/Jxgkdnku698
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Define the "nano level".


Billionth of a meter.

I've already provided links to these nano particles that you can buy right now.

ETA: seriously didn't you learn your metric prefixes in 8th grade?

Here you go:

This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55603 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:14 pm to
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I've already provided links to these nano particles that you can buy right now.



You provided links to a website that i'm not clicking on. Maybe find a more reputable website?

and how was this stuff placed on the columns without a single human being seeing it?

Also, so was this building teh only building bush blew up, or were there others?
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:17 pm to
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But nothing to see here...



Huh??
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:19 pm to
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Why not a partial collapse? That seems more probable. That is some column beams will fail before others.

You believe the fire weakened all 24 columns equally from beginning of the fire to failure to the point where all 24 failed simultaneously.

Listen, I will answer you politely here, but please read it all.

You are MISTAKEN. There was a partial collapse followed very quickly by a full collapse. This IS SHOWN in at least one view, where some rooftop structure (or A/C unit) falls, QUITE A FEW seconds prior to the full collapse.

What that means is, at that instant, loads were no longer being held by a certain number of just-collapsed columns. Those columns were gone. So adjacent columns had increased loads.

THIS is the cascading effect that you perceived as simultaneous, but actually wasn't.


Three questions:

1) Are you aware of the South Korea mall that lost a couple central columns that then resulted VERY quickly into a full building collapse?

2) Have you seen the view I described above, where WTC-7 rooftop structure falls many seconds before the larger collapse? If not, I will go find it for you.

3) What if the view I am describing never was captured? I mean to ask you... are you aware that events can occur that are not captured on video, that thus make available footage look one way, but there are things happening that you are not seeing?
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:19 pm to
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It means you can light a building on fire to ignite thermite to cut beams therefore being cleared from the building before it collapses.


You know that you have to tear out sections of wall in order to get at the beams, right??

That is still not how it works.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:20 pm to
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You provided links to a website that i'm not clicking on.


It a material sales website.

quote:

Maybe find a more reputable website?


How do you know it's not reputable if you won't even click on it?

I'm not a jerk on here...I don't post links to porn sites for shits and giggles (although some people might like that).

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and how was this stuff placed on the columns without a single human being seeing it?



IDK for certain but there is no reason it cannot be hidden under the insulation.

Posted by TigerDrumline
Kenner
Member since Feb 2009
595 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:20 pm to
We get it. You've abdicated your ability to think for yourself to certain media outlets. People who WANT to believe something, will. Doesn't matter if its true. Enjoy your bliss.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Huh??


It's boxes of fuse buses. Those were "college students" doing an "art project" in the WTC just prior to 911.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

There was a partial collapse followed very quickly by a full collapse. This IS SHOWN in at least one view, where some rooftop structure (or A/C unit) falls, QUITE A FEW seconds prior to the full collapse.


Correct.
Building 7 took hours to collapse after the first signs of structural failure.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137074 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:24 pm to
I'm finding stuff all over the board.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

1) Are you aware of the South Korea mall that lost a couple central columns that then resulted VERY quickly into a full building collapse?


Not aware. I would be interested in seeing it.

quote:

2) Have you seen the view I described above, where WTC-7 rooftop structure falls many seconds before the larger collapse? If not, I will go find it for you.


I've probably seen it but just don't recall at the moment.

quote:

3) What if the view I am describing never was captured? I mean to ask you... are you aware that events can occur that are not captured on video, that thus make available footage look one way, but there are things happening that you are not seeing?


Yes. Of course.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137074 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:26 pm to
What do bus fuses have to do with anything?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
71023 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:26 pm to
If the towers were rigged to blow why the planes?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:29 pm to
plausible deniability.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:29 pm to
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What do bus fuses have to do with anything?


Connect wires that carry and distribute current.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
71023 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:31 pm to
What plane hit #7?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137074 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Connect wires that carry and distribute current.

Yeah, it's well known that there were no electrical components in the building prior to 9/11/01
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