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Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:35 am to Hopeful Doc
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I am trying to understand what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that you're questioning everything about WTC 7's collapse because of something you don't remember understanding several years ago
LOL. Yep
"I demand answers because I have questions I don't remember!!!!"
Come on Gumbo. Sheesh
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:36 am to Hopeful Doc
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Are you saying that you're questioning everything about WTC 7's collapse because of something you don't remember understanding several years ago?
My eyes tell be a different story than the official story. That is all.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:37 am to GumboPot
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You are doubting that buildings are built form steel and aluminum building materials?
What are you referring to?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:38 am to Mickey Goldmill
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They found what they wanted to find
Hmmm...
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:39 am to Dale51
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What are you referring to?
You asked me if I was joking about the composition of thermite.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:39 am to GumboPot
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
These guys have some compelling evidence that there was thermite or other explosives involved in the WTC collapse. That is if you follow conspiracy theories.
Respectfully submitted.
These guys have some compelling evidence that there was thermite or other explosives involved in the WTC collapse. That is if you follow conspiracy theories.
Respectfully submitted.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:40 am to GumboPot
Your very observant. More than most.
Those two buildings look exactly alike.
Those two buildings look exactly alike.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:40 am to GumboPot
quote:
My eyes tell be a different story than the official story.
What do you see that looks similar to a CD?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:41 am to Dale51
Symmetrical collapse.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:41 am to GumboPot
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You asked me if I was joking about the composition of thermite.
Thats a misunderstanding.
The joke I asked about was if you actually believe those building were brought down by a CD.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:42 am to GumboPot
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My eyes tell be a different story than the official story. That is all
ROFLMAO
My God that's just bad
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:49 am to Yak
Can jet fuel melt steel beams?
"Given adequate oxygen, certainly. From here, for instance, you can get an approximate maximum flame temperature for kerosene burning in air, and a higher concentration of oxygen will increase the temperature. At 3800 F, this is about 1000 F above the melting point of steel, so melting steel with jet fuel (kerosene) is entirely possible.
Of course, "Common sense suggests that steel beams should not yield" suggests that you've been visiting 9-11 conspiracy sites, and it's important that you realize that melting beams is not remotely required to bring down a building. All you need to do is a) destroy some of the existing beams in order to increase the load on the survivors, and b) heat some of the survivors enough to reduce their strength to the point that they can no longer support their load. When some start to deform, this will throw extra load on the others, and a chain reaction of failure is certainly possible. And steel will certainly lose strength at high temperatures - typically about 50% at 1000 F, and 75% at 1100 F." LINK
"Given adequate oxygen, certainly. From here, for instance, you can get an approximate maximum flame temperature for kerosene burning in air, and a higher concentration of oxygen will increase the temperature. At 3800 F, this is about 1000 F above the melting point of steel, so melting steel with jet fuel (kerosene) is entirely possible.
Of course, "Common sense suggests that steel beams should not yield" suggests that you've been visiting 9-11 conspiracy sites, and it's important that you realize that melting beams is not remotely required to bring down a building. All you need to do is a) destroy some of the existing beams in order to increase the load on the survivors, and b) heat some of the survivors enough to reduce their strength to the point that they can no longer support their load. When some start to deform, this will throw extra load on the others, and a chain reaction of failure is certainly possible. And steel will certainly lose strength at high temperatures - typically about 50% at 1000 F, and 75% at 1100 F." LINK
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:52 am to GumboPot
Let's assume the building was intentionally taken down. Ok.
1) Motive?
2) How would this be achieved?
3) How many required to execute?
4) Why this complicated? Why the need to involve planes and hundreds of passengers?
5) wouldn't we have gone to war if AQ had simply truck bombed the buildings down?
There are many more. But I'll start there. I can play the why game too
1) Motive?
2) How would this be achieved?
3) How many required to execute?
4) Why this complicated? Why the need to involve planes and hundreds of passengers?
5) wouldn't we have gone to war if AQ had simply truck bombed the buildings down?
There are many more. But I'll start there. I can play the why game too
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:55 am to ShortyRob
quote:quote:
My eyes tell be a different story than the official story. That is all
ROFLMAO
My God that's just bad
High Rise building collapses from fire is a very rare event. WTC buildings and the high rise apartment building Brazil are the only documented building total collapses due to fire. Here is a video of the Brazil high rise apartment building collapse due to fire. LINK The behavior of that collapse is totally expected. The building is engulfed in flames.
Looks MUCH different than WTC 7.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:55 am to ShortyRob
I always thought if you were into the tinfoil about the main towers being brought down or planes remotely piloted, then it was the command and control center. Rudy apparently had some super duper reinforced bunker in there. But, that still begs the question of where "they" blew up WTC7 from.
I thought there were a ton of spy agencies in there. I remember there being some discussion of a lot of Enron documents there, as well as gold at the bottom.
I thought there were a ton of spy agencies in there. I remember there being some discussion of a lot of Enron documents there, as well as gold at the bottom.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:56 am to ImaObserver
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"Given adequate oxygen, certainly. From here, for instance, you can get an approximate maximum flame temperature for kerosene burning in air, and a higher concentration of oxygen will increase the temperature. At 3800 F, this is about 1000 F above the melting point of steel, so melting steel with jet fuel (kerosene) is entirely possible.
Of course, "Common sense suggests that steel beams should not yield" suggests that you've been visiting 9-11 conspiracy sites, and it's important that you realize that melting beams is not remotely required to bring down a building. All you need to do is a) destroy some of the existing beams in order to increase the load on the survivors, and b) heat some of the survivors enough to reduce their strength to the point that they can no longer support their load. When some start to deform, this will throw extra load on the others, and a chain reaction of failure is certainly possible. And steel will certainly lose strength at high temperatures - typically about 50% at 1000 F, and 75% at 1100 F." LINK
I know this and I agree with all of that.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:57 am to Bunk Moreland
Why would you blow up a bunch of gold along with Enron documents?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 10:58 am to GumboPot
Here's the thing Gumbo.
Plane hit Pentagon but no explosives were used.
Seems the effect was enough for someones purpose right?
The other plane was headed for DC to hit a building was that going to be enough for someones purpose again perhaps without explosives?
One plane for each main tower. Thats not enough for someones purpose?
No plane for building 7 but hell lets blow it up just for giggles because without #7 going down this whole plan fails?
Doesn't make any sense bro.
Plane hit Pentagon but no explosives were used.
Seems the effect was enough for someones purpose right?
The other plane was headed for DC to hit a building was that going to be enough for someones purpose again perhaps without explosives?
One plane for each main tower. Thats not enough for someones purpose?
No plane for building 7 but hell lets blow it up just for giggles because without #7 going down this whole plan fails?
Doesn't make any sense bro.
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