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re: Why didn't the Hard Rock building collapse like WTC building 7?

Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:33 pm to
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If the towers were rigged to blow why the planes?


I mean that is a plausible theory.

Once the planes hit the building there is enough heat to ignite the preplaced thermite. Once ignited it does its cutting and just looks like it's part of the fire. It contains it's own oxygen source so it can get super hot (4500 degrees).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Yeah, it's well known that there were no electrical components in the building prior to 9/11/01



Fair enough. I don't like that theory anyway. Too messy.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:35 pm to
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It's boxes of fuse buses. Those were "college students" doing an "art project" in the WTC just prior to 911.



Aaaaand??
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:35 pm to
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It's boxes of fuse buses.
What do you think the purpose of those fuse boxes were for?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Why not a partial collapse? That seems more probable. That is some column beams will fail before others


It's amazing how many statements you have made in this thread regarding likelihood and probability while simultaneously admitting you don't actually have the knowledge required to assess likelihood or probability

How do you not see this problem?
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Bush and Cheney did a really good job when they personally wired the buildings for demolition. Then had the Israelis fly radio controlled airplanes into them


Weird that the dust from the building had the signature chemical composition of thermite. That jet fuel does work in mysterious ways.


That plan that hit 7 really got it good.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:37 pm to
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What plane hit #7?


A chunk of one of the towers left a 20 burning hole in it.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9746 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:38 pm to
Did you know tower # 7 was only the 3rd sky scraper to ever collapse ever from burning? Tower 1 and 2 were the first 2.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Once the planes hit the building there is enough heat to ignite the preplaced thermite.


Really really really big building and kinda tall with a lot of beams and they put the charges right where they knew the planes would hit?

Or did they just coat every square inch of those non exposed beams?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Once the planes hit the building there is enough heat to ignite the preplaced thermite

My friends you could read AOC from now till the end of time and not read something dumber then the quote I just pasted
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:40 pm to
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Did you know tower # 7 was only the 3rd sky scraper to ever collapse ever from burning? Tower 1 and 2 were the first 2.


I'm pretty sure the structural damage from the planes hitting 1&2 and the debris from them creating a gaping hole in 7 had something to do with it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:41 pm to
And all of this silliness because supposedly we wanted to go to war. As if we've never figured out how to go to war before without blowing up buildings and nearly collapsing our economy at the same time.

As if they're needed to be some elaborate plan involving multiple planes to blow up buildings and blame it on terrorists.

hell you could have put charges in the buildings and blamed it on terrorists.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:42 pm to
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What do you think the purpose of those fuse boxes were for?

Why, to wire together the charges used to bring down the buildings, of course.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
71024 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Did you know tower # 7 was only the 3rd sky scraper to ever collapse ever from burning?




Sounds unique indeed.




quote:

Yamasaki and engineers John Skilling and Les Robertson worked closely, and the relationship between the towers' design and structure was clear. Faced with the difficulties of building to unprecedented heights, the engineers employed an innovative structural model: a rigid "hollow tube" of closely spaced steel columns with floor trusses extended across to a central core.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:43 pm to
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And all of this silliness because supposedly we wanted to go to war. As if we've never figured out how to go to war before without blowing up buildings and nearly collapsing our economy at the same time.
Just wait until we get to the part where all the passengers (and all of their extended families and friends and coworkers) on the planes are on an island hanging out with Tupac and Elvis
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:44 pm to
Basically if the goal was to push us into war you could have just flown one plane into a building and probably been successful

if for some reason you believe that the buildings had to come down to hide something you could have placed charges and then use the truck bomb to take the b**** down and still gotten away with it

In fact there are about a thousand ways to have gotten us into war that would have been much simpler to execute if you're willing to just lie and kill thousands of people

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55604 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:44 pm to
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IDK for certain but there is no reason it cannot be hidden under the insulation.


How was it placed without someone seeing them place it? Hidden under insulation? Are you kidding? You are a nutjob.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Did you know tower # 7 was only the 3rd sky scraper to ever collapse ever from burning? Tower 1 and 2 were the first 2.


How many buildings prior to Tower 1 and 2 had been hit by fully loaded with fuel Boeing 767s?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:46 pm to
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You are a nutjob.



Why are you so triggered?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137074 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Weird that the dust from the building had the signature chemical composition of thermite.

No, it didn't. USGS never reported key components of thermite in dust. They reported elements that were also commonly found in the materials of the building. Truthers have filled that in with their never ending conspiracy.
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