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re: Why didn't Hillary run for POTUS in 2004?
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:31 am to WeeWee
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:31 am to WeeWee
The Clinton's were controlled by the CIA. (MENA, Drugs for guns, GHW Bush step-son...) They were simply waiting their term. Obama was needed to pull the blacks back onto the plantation while proving how gullible Americans were in electing a POTUS named Hussein after fighting a war with a fella named Hussein.
The Trump happened. Big change coming and it will be glorious.
The Trump happened. Big change coming and it will be glorious.
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:32 am to AlterEd
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Because she had just been elected to the Senate after killing JFK Jr.
But you can't say that! (Norm would have been proud.)
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:37 am to EphesianArmor
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Norm would have been proud.)
The GOAT
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:10 am to AlterEd
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No, not really. Think it through, they have to destabilize the region before they import them.
We're going to go waaaaay out into "what if" land on this but I'm game.
The region was already destabilized due to 9/11. Had we not responded with an invasion, Osama and the Taliban would have used that as a rallying cry about how "the Great Satan is weak!" to pull in scores of radicals AND increase their level of radicalization.
The Left would have done the same thing we saw with Obama and Biden, the attempt to calm the radicalization by appeasing them. Having Gore or Kerry in office during this would have just sped that process up and likely involved giving/selling even more secrets to the Chinese.
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No, what I'm saying is that it wouldn't have been better or worse. It would have been the same.
I disagree. What we've had since 2000 was the movement back and forth between appeasement attempts and attempts at holding them accountable as power has moved back and forth. Had we not had a GWB in office during 9/11 we would have seen massive pressure from the Left to do nothing but navel-gaze about how we deserved 9/11 and should be apologizing to the radicals. Appeasement of radicals only emboldens them so it is far more likely that it would be worse now than better.
To underscore this, even with the wars we've seen the likes of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib elected to Congress. Imagine what the country would look like with another half-dozen or so like that getting into Congress because the Leftists had a longer period to push the guilt rhetoric onto the populace.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:18 am to BuckeyeGoon
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Bush only won the State by like 1 or 2 points.
Yep. I remember DU nerds crying about Diebold after the 2004 Election the way some here have cried about Dominion since 2020.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:21 am to WeeWee
She waited until 2008 because she thought they would vote a white woman over a black man. A black man with a sketchy birth story.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:07 am to SludgeFactory
She voted for the war. Tough to run against it at that point.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:08 am to Bard
Bush only won Ohio by 2.1 percent. If Kerry wins Ohio he's president. It was closer than it looked.
Hillary was damaged goods in 2004 and had no chance. She needed to get some Senate years under her belt and get farther from the Monica mess. It was her time in 2008 to win and was taken out by a community organizer.
She has to be the most bitter women alive after the monumental losses she's taken and being publicly humiliated by her husband for 40 years.
Hillary was damaged goods in 2004 and had no chance. She needed to get some Senate years under her belt and get farther from the Monica mess. It was her time in 2008 to win and was taken out by a community organizer.
She has to be the most bitter women alive after the monumental losses she's taken and being publicly humiliated by her husband for 40 years.
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