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re: Why did trump pardon rod blagojevich
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:13 am to VOR
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:13 am to VOR
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It IS odd. Clearly, there’s something in it for Trump. Blagojevich is a sleaze.
I think that was more Fox News influence. He says he saw Patti Blagojevich pleading her husband's case on Laura Ingraham's show. The common theme in the pardons & commutations was fraud. He just doesn't seem to think fraud crimes should be punished harshly. I'll leave it to your imaginations to infer why that might be.
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:19 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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He’s pulled enough time. I’ve seen armed bank robbers get 7 years to serve federally
Must have been white....That Stanford swimmer that was a rapist got 6 mos probation...
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:20 am to LaTexSaint
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Must have been white
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:21 am to bdavids09
Here's my take. He didn't pardon him, he commuted the sentence. He reduced the sentence because others who have done far worse have served less or no time. In my opinion, he's basically saying that Blago served far longer than those in his party who have done far more.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:26 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Now, how about his pardon on the lady who did $205 million of Medicare fraud?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:27 am to bdavids09
He thought the sentence was too heavy. So he reduced his sentence. He did not pardon him.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:30 am to ItTakesAThief
Did anybody catch that the family of the tax cheat he pardoned donated hundreds of thousands to the Trump victory fund & related political causes?
This baw is trying to send us a message.
This baw is trying to send us a message.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:30 am to Y.A. Tittle
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The neat thing is, he did it all 9 months before his second election, so if you think it's all the most horrible thing in the world, you can vote accordingly. Isn't our Constitutional Republic setup awesome?
This is an absolutely awful reply
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:32 am to TigerDoc
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Did anybody catch that the family of the tax cheat he pardoned donated hundreds of thousands to the Trump victory fund & related political causes?
This baw is trying to send us a message.
Was the Baw's name Rich?Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:32 am to Jbird
He's not as rich as he'd like us to believe.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:33 am to TigerDoc
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He just doesn't seem to think fraud crimes should be punished harshly. I'll leave it to your imaginations to infer why that might be.
So you are actually trying to claim Trump has done a bunch of fraud?
I mean it's not like you havent been wrong about everything
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:33 am to TigerDoc
quote:Mark?
He's not as rich as he'd like us to believe.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:34 am to SDVTiger
quote:Well he was spot on about Honest bob taking down Drumpf.
I mean it's not like you havent been wrong about everything
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:34 am to SDVTiger
I think we're past the "he doesn't do fraud" stage. That was '17 & '18. We're at the "we don't give a shite" stage.
Catch up, baw.
Catch up, baw.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:35 am to TigerDoc
So you deflect and wont answer the question
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:35 am to SD Tider
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Was it though? He was selling a Senate seat, that’s pretty fricking serious. Again, I’ve seen this talking point repeated over and over by the legal minds of PT, but I’ve seen no link. Personally I’d be in favor of doubling the penalty for these types of crimes.
"Selling a Senate seat" isn't a crime and that keeps getting brought up to sensationalize the issue. He was never even convicted of actual bribery... one of the charges he was found guilty of was "conspiracy to solicit bribes."
Now if you want to see what the usual penalties are for this type of stuff:
Quick facts on Bribery - Average sentence is 26 months
Page 650 - Sentencing Table for Corruption charges For a first time offender (Blago had no criminal history), the minimum to mid-range sentencing guideline length is 0 to 87 months.
The Feds did what they normally do and stacked up a lot of bullshite charges to get up to that big sentence... keep in mind the FIRST trial resulted in Blago being found guilty of ONE count of lying to investigators, but the judge declared a mistrial on all the other counts, and of course the Feds couldn't let it go so they had a SECOND trial to jam him up on all the other stuff.
So, no matter how bad you think "selling a Senate seat" is: 1) the government didn't even prove that he did it (because he didn't); 2) nothing of value ever changed hands (kind of like Trump's "quid pro quo" bullshite with Ukraine; and 3) the Feds basically spent as much as they had to until they eventually "got him," which is pretty chickenshit.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:36 am to SD Tider
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quote:
The neat thing is, he did it all 9 months before his second election, so if you think it's all the most horrible thing in the world, you can vote accordingly. Isn't our Constitutional Republic setup awesome?
This is an absolutely awful reply
How so? It's an explicit constitutional function of a president, to exercise as he wishes. There's basically no check on it, but the ballot box. Probably explains why you see so many in the closing days of presidents' two term tenures.
He's doing a few here toward the end of his FIRST term.
Take it for what you will.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:38 am to Jbird
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Well he was spot on about Honest bob taking down Drumpf.
hey he did get his man Manafort for mink coats Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:38 am to SDVTiger
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So you deflect and wont answer the question
He paid a $25 million dollar settlement on his fraudulent "university" he shut down and had his fraudulent charity shut down and isn't allowed to operate a charity in his former home state anymore.
Yes, he's a fraud, numbskull.
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/19/20 at 10:43 am to Y.A. Tittle
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How so?
Because he’s obviously the best option and this is not an action that would cause me to not vote for him.
Basically: if I disqualified a candidate based on a single action I don’t like (actually several for Trump in my case) then I would never be able to vote for anybody because nobody is perfect.
That doesn’t mean I can’t criticize his actions and exercise my right as a citizen to voice displeasure with what appears to me to be an act of cronyism in my view.
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