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re: Why did people on the left think Obamacare was a necessity?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:12 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:12 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Dude just shut up.
It sucks when you know you're wrong, right?
Seriously... How are pre-existing conditions ANY different than wrecking a car and calling an insurance company the next day to have them cover the wreck?
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:13 pm to gatorrocks
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More of it for democrats who supported the law and more for the insurance companies.
This is my biggest problem with Obamacare. It really doesn't do anything but guarantee massive amounts of money to the giant insurance companies that the left supposedly hates.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:15 pm to upgrayedd
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the left supposedly hates
Considering the left WORKED with insurance companies to craft the law, that assumption has been abolished.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:15 pm to gatorrocks
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Seriously...
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:17 pm to SpidermanTUba
Great answer. How is it any different?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:17 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:Completely false assumption.
If you don't qualify for these then you should be able to provide yourself with insurance unless you made a lot of bad decisions or aren't willing to work a little harder.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:17 pm to BOSCEAUX
Because the left feels health coverage is a right. A right granted to you by the government. When it comes to actually paying for health coverage the left's answer is their answer for everything - raise taxes and shut up.
The fact that you work and pay for your own health coverage is meaningless to them - they want you to pay more so they can have coverage.
The fact that you work and pay for your own health coverage is meaningless to them - they want you to pay more so they can have coverage.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:19 pm to mmcgrath
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quote: If you don't qualify for these then you should be able to provide yourself with insurance unless you made a lot of bad decisions or aren't willing to work a little harder. Completely false assumption.
Ok..... Then what are the facts?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:22 pm to LACountyTiger
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I doesn't even really do that. Tons of people had great access but lost their docs BECAUSE of this.
If anythinf, it hurt access to care.
what planet do you live on?
I mean, obamacare sucks but it does provide unprecedented access to health insurance.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:23 pm to gatorrocks
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Considering the left WORKED with insurance companies to craft the law, that assumption has been abolished.
Are there any stats on how many insurance companies closed their doors due to the Obmacare mandates?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:25 pm to BOSCEAUX
FDR and LBJ knew the answer.
Lock up millions of votes for your party machine.
Hope that helps
Lock up millions of votes for your party machine.
Hope that helps
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:27 pm to Hawkeye95
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I mean, obamacare sucks but it does provide unprecedented access to health insurance.
Access to shitty expensive plans unless you qualify for huge subsidies. It was just another way to buy votes, end of story.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:27 pm to Hawkeye95
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unprecedented access to health insurance
To Whom?
People with pre-existing conditions?
The poor?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:28 pm to upgrayedd
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Are there any stats on how many insurance companies closed their doors due to the Obmacare mandates?
Good question. I have no clue.
But I'm willing to bet they were ALL small insurance companies not named United Health care, Aetna and Blue Cross, Blue Shield.
What's the easiest way to crush competition? Create regulations...
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:29 pm to gatorrocks
Exactly. They fricked over millions to "help" very few. Stupid legislation and it's coming home to roost on that arse now.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:32 pm to BOSCEAUX
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Access to shitty expensive plans unless you qualify for huge subsidies
again, obamacare sux.
But it does provide access to millions of americans who were locked out of the market.
Your rates might have gone up, but that doesn't mean access to health insurance decreased.
quote:
It was just another way to buy votes, end of story.
considering tuesdays results it didn't work very well at doing this.
I genuinely believe that obamacare was passed to fix what liberals saw as a problem with access to health care.
the problem is they let it be written by insurance companies and it was just not a well crafted law.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:49 pm to Hawkeye95
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I genuinely believe that obamacare was passed to fix what liberals saw as a problem with access to health care.
I will respectfully disagree. I'm sure some in the party were true believers though.
the problem is they let it be written by insurance companies and it was just not a well crafted law.
Nor well read.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:58 pm to Hawkeye95
I genuinely believe that obamacare was passed to fix what liberals saw as a problem with access to health care. the problem is they let it be written by insurance companies and it was just not a well crafted law. [/quote]
Surely you're not serious
So if the law was written better you could make the impossible possible?
Surely you're not serious
So if the law was written better you could make the impossible possible?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:00 pm to BOSCEAUX
Well that is not entirely true. But que sera sera.
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