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re: Why can’t we be allies with Russia??
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
But he’s an Alpha bro
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:06 am to Damone
A good portion of this board thinks he is a hero fighting the woke globalists.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:07 am to Lima Whiskey
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They are a European people
No. Russia has always wanted to see itself as European but has always been seen by actual Europe as a backwater (and rightfully so).
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but their culture is in better shape than ours,
You may want to read up on the crisis of male life in Russia (prior to the invasion of Ukraine) before you speak on such things.
Remember, there is a reason why the only Russian content-culture ever worth exporting is always seeped in depression and existential dread.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:08 am to KiwiHead
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US is not perfect, no place is, but this love for Russia and Putin borders on the idiotic.It is the talk of fools.
Yeah you can easily tell who has been broken by propaganda by their waxing poetic of how great Russia is.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:09 am to Ribbed
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Saudi Arabia says hi.
Our relations with SA are strategic, but they also understand how to engage in legitimate talks on things like trade.
How is Russia potentially our greatest ally? There is really very little about Russian culture, economics, or trade that signals that we could work together.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:11 am to Ribbed
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Always have to have a foil to enact your stupid globalist policies
Russia isn't even significant enough to be that foil.
China is, and China is in the process of making Russia it's bitch, currently. It's hilarious to watch in real time.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
It’s 100% a result of the bullshite Trump-Russia narrative. Dems succeeded in pushing a large chunk of the American populace to support Russia.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:15 am to Damone
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It’s 100% a result of the bullshite Trump-Russia narrative. Dems succeeded in pushing a large chunk of the American populace to support Russia.
It didn't start until Trump lost.
This is more "the other party is in power so America sucks now" narrative. When it's Trump in power, you see the Leftists opine for Europe (actual Europe, which does not include Russia). When it's Biden in power, you see MAGA opine for Russia.
Putin knows how to sell to disenfranchised emotional thinkers and proliferate that message. They eat it up.
At least when Leftists are melting down, they talk about moving to France or Italy or Germany. MAGA is talking about how much better Russia and Hungary are than the US
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:16 am to TigerNlc
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We are on a slippery slope here. Capitalism works when people have values, morals and an educated populace. We don’t have that anymore.
This ^^^ pretty much aligns with what one of the founding fathers said so many years ago,
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John Adams said,
“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Morality and virtue are the foundation of our republic and necessary for a society to be free.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:20 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Yes, maybe we should be allied with Russia. Maybe we could learn something from the civilized Russian citizenry. Like how to be civilized in public - as in places like Disneyland and Cruise Ships. The citizens of Russia feel more safe on their streets than the average American feels on the streets of our cities.
Plus, that buffoon in the Oval Office is a total disaster. Who would you guess does a better job of protecting the borders of his country? Joe Biden or Vlad Putin? Be honest.
Facts are stubborn things - John Adams
Plus, that buffoon in the Oval Office is a total disaster. Who would you guess does a better job of protecting the borders of his country? Joe Biden or Vlad Putin? Be honest.
Facts are stubborn things - John Adams
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 8:57 am
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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How is Russia potentially our greatest ally?
I don't think Russia has much to offer. Pretending western countries have noble intentions or goals is silly at this point.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
Keep going. You're on a roll.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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Russia isn't even significant enough to be that foil.
Russia was the bad guy dangled out there to kick this thing off.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:23 am to UFownstSECsince1950
quote:Because Russia's dictator, Vladimir Putin, can't be trusted.
Why can’t we be allies with Russia??
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:25 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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f we can be close allies with Japan, England, Germany, Italy, etc etc, why can’t we with Russia by now?
How young and/or ignorant are you? Russia is just a warmed over Soviet Union. They are not reconstructed like Germany or Italy. They are run by an authoritarian dictator.
At some point Russia may get its act together. That day isn't now.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:27 am to Ribbed
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Pretending western countries have noble intentions or goals is silly at this point.
That wasn't being discussed nor argued.
That was a cultural comment. People are arguing we are culturally similar to Russia when that's not true at all.
We are a Western, liberal democracy. Russia has never been any of those things
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:30 am to BigJim
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At some point Russia may get its act together. That day isn't now.
Russia is never "getting its act together".
Russia as a backwater monarchy that was taken over by Communists prior to Russia being in the correct posture for Marxism. Russia never reached modern industrialization, which is a necessary step (following autocratic rule) for Marxism to work, per Marx. Even assuming Marx was right (he was not), Russia was not "ready" for Marxism.
So Russia has just rotated various forms of autocratic rule since the Mongol invasion of the 13th century. That is all their people know, and who they will always backslide to support. Putin knows this, which is why he understood how to seize the power atop the modern Russian ruling system (which is an oligarchic structure under Putin).
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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That was a cultural comment. People are arguing we are culturally similar to Russia when that's not true at all.
And yet, once again, Saudi Arabia. Russia has resources and at least gives lip service to human rights. There is common ground if you're not trying to rule the world.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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cwill
quote:MAN! The Khazarian Jew is strong in this one.
RUssia BAD! Russia REAL BAD!
Russia HORRIBLE! Russia Got cooties!
quote:There are several countries seen as "backwaters" in Europe.
Russia has always wanted to see itself as European but has always been seen by actual Europe as a backwater (and rightfully so).
Norwegians are known as the Beverly Hillbillies of Europe (rightfully so and I can attest to that opinion - they are a race of hairy morons continually displaying plumbers arse cracks - same with their men). Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Finland, Portugal, most of Italy, and most of Spain the same.
and we are supposed to listen to the Khazarian Mafia opinion OF Russians from the biggest liar on this board speaking from the hatred of 1200 years of treacherous deceit, crime, and theft of a major world religion?
as they are fully embroiled in their latest attacks on Russia?
I would say that the Khazarians from the steppes of western Asia could not be more "backwater" and deserving of denigration of their permanent violence.
Russia is a brilliant culture STILL bejewelled with some of the richest culture in all aesthetic areas anywhere with a history of upheaval and struggle though - of late due to the attacks of Khazarian Mafia Pretenders.
You know this. Stop pretending. Stop propagandizing.
Wait, CAN you stop pretending?
Posted on 10/21/23 at 8:45 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Russia has no desire to be an ally
with America. Its objective is, and always been, to dominate Europe and other strategic parts of the world. Their government has actually been pretty open about it. It’s not a secret.
with America. Its objective is, and always been, to dominate Europe and other strategic parts of the world. Their government has actually been pretty open about it. It’s not a secret.
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