re: Why aren't there more pro choice conservatives?

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A person (you) who's moral compass is their own intelligence/conscience can justify anything. The only thing they struggle with is the fact that in this case everyone should be able to define their own morality and freely live by it.

Imagine that!

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Your moral compass is guided by a god that condones slavery, feels comfortable with slaughtering innocent children and animals, "punishes" rapists by having them marry the women they raped, promotes bashing gay people with stones until they die, and burning animals alive because he enjoys the scent.

And you wanna talk about morality.

It's whose, btw. Not who's.

I am pro choice

I'm also pro facing consequences of those choices

Here's a question for the OP. Why don't more of these women choose to use birth control, rather than getting into a situation where they have to consider abortion?

And, let's just be honest here, birth control is both cheap and plentiful, anyone who gave a shite could afford it.

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because it WOULD be a human being if another hadn't intervened.

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...you are capable of seeing how this applies to abortion, no?

Most people aren't against welfare, but we are against the way the system is implemented and easily abused.

Most republicans are pro life and many of those are bible thumpers. Gotta pretend to care and love Jesus or they have zero chance of being elected.

Then once elected if they let folks know they had a pro choice stance, they'd never be re-elected.

That's why I never understand why the GOP ever pokes that bear? Just say "Supreme court ruling" which essentially releases them from blame and move on. Any legit push to overturn Roe vs. Wade would be a bloodbath for the republicans.

Like if Dems really pushed hard for gun reform or outright "adjustment" to the 2nd amendment. Would be a shite storm.

Ok, I'll just let God be God in my life and do my best to play by his rules.

You and the rest of your friends can make up your own rules as you go. Just don't complain when someone comes to your house to take your life, your wife, your kids, and all your goodies away because his morality says "survival of the fittest" works best for him.

Oh, sorry for the grammatical error.

When he heart starts to beat is the answer to your question

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So in other words, about 6 weeks.

In less than a page, you went from advocating for free abortion to outlawing almost all of them.

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Yes. I think that heartbeat is a fair and reasonable indicator of when life begins and ends.

I should have said could instead of would. My mistake.

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BamaGradinTn

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Here is why your position is both stupid and hypocritical.

If a woman who is 4 months pregnant is walking down the street and punch her in the stomach ending her pregnancy, I can be charged for murder (probably 2nd deegree, possibly manslaughter)

anyway, so be legal definition we have classified that 4 month old fetus as a human, I mean logically speaking that only makes sense, beccause you can ONLY murder a human being. You can't murder a dog, or a cat, or a horse, or what have you. Murder is the illegal taking of a human life. That's the legal definition.

So, there really is no disputing that our own laws define a 4 month old fetus as a human being, they do.

So nnow we ask ourselves, why is it okay for "the mom" to ill a fetus?

The answer of course, is that the key phrase is "unlawful killing" abortion has made it lawful, thus avoiding the whole issue of is abortion murder? Because no, it isn't murder, abortion is the LAWFUL killing of a human being.

So the argument that "it's not a human " is a weak argument made by idiots like yourself. OF COURSE a fetus is a human, we've already legally defined it as such by making it murder to kill another person's fetus.

So the real debate should be "why is it legal to kill another human being simply because it is a fetus?" but obviously that wouldn't go over very well politically. So, best to pretend it's not even a human, even though we have laws that say it is.