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re: Why are poors for these tax cuts?

Posted on 5/26/25 at 8:57 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 8:57 am to
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Are you the guy that is trying to save up $3,500 for a side by side?


Nah, you should stop listening to lightweights and pathological liars.

This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 8:59 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2032 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 8:58 am to
actually if the child tax credit zero's out your income tax it's capped at $1600.

after the standard deduction, employer heath insurance which is paid in pretax dollars and a 401k also pre tax dollars and you find yourself owing about 3 grand with two kids and a potential $4000 dollar tax credit which would erase your tax debt plus give you an extra thousand dollars then your child tax credit is capped at $1600. meaning instead of paying zero income tax and getting $1000 back you'll pay zero income tax and getting $200 back.

by the way that's every married filing joint with two kids making 100k a year or less.

here's the great news if we let the trump tax cuts expire the child tax credit goes back to 600 dollars and i can itemize again!
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:07 am to
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Cogs in the machine. Its the "idea people" and the moneyed people who move the world. Not the worker.
All the ideas and money in the world are useless without the workers.

I have no issue with billionaires. Men like Musk have led innovation and have used their wealth to advance our technology. He also invests in America.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13554 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:07 am to
Do rich people pay more taxes than you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:08 am to
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All the ideas and money in the world are useless without the workers


Tech and machinery have destroyed that ideal. Workers are cheap and replaceable.

Instead of waiting for the Gubment to give you a raise, how about you increase your value instead.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62237 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:10 am to
The mind of a liberal
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:10 am to
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We have the second largest mfg base in the world.
We used to be number 1.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:12 am to
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We used to be number 1.


Per capita we still are.

You folks are ignorant. We still run the world, you've just been left behind in the modern economy.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:19 am to
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Per capita we still are.

You folks are ignorant. We still run the world, you've just been left behind in the modern economy
We've become a nation of importers. That's your modern economy. Why do you think Trump has to use tariffs to fix the mess caused by the rich sending all the jobs overseas?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:22 am to
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We've become a nation of importers.


Because we are wealthy. The alternative is to become poor again so we can make rubber dog shite.

And it benefits you too, you just are programmed to not understand why.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:24 am to
We import cheap shite. That isn’t a life of the wealthy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:25 am to
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We import cheap shite.


Because its not economical to manufacture cheap shite here with shitty low wage pay.

Youre starting to get it. Might be hope for you after all.

Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19474 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:25 am to
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Per capita we still are. You folks are ignorant. We still run the world


It’s not always how much you make but instead what you make.

We cannot service our own industries without foreign manufacturing.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112917 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:26 am to
Why is fareplay an idiot?
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
905 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:28 am to
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The poors were scammed and fleeced once again and think they won.


Maybe they like the larger standard deduction and the lower tax brackets.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:29 am to
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It’s not always how much you make but instead what you make.


We make high value, high tech products and offshore stuff that can be produced cheaply.

We are winning. Y'all are just uninformed and believing liars who should know better.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:30 am to
Yeah but you said it’s because we’re rich. We shouldn’t be spending our money on importing that cheap shite nor manufacturing it. I think that’s a huge reason why our poorer people are poor, just my opinion.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22149 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:30 am to
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the middle class hasn't paid any real income tax since the W bush administration


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:32 am to
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Yeah but you said it’s because we’re rich



We are

quote:


. We shouldn’t be spending our money on importing that cheap shite nor manufacturing it


Some people want it. Particularly poor people. Cheap imports have done more to help the poor than your own government.

quote:

. I think that’s a huge reason why our poorer people are poor, just my opinion.


Cheap imports have been awesome for our poor. You have more faith in government, I trust markets.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:36 am to
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Because we are wealthy. The alternative is to become poor again so we can make rubber dog shite.

And it benefits you too, you just are programmed to not understand why.
Trade deficits with China benefit us?
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