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Why are libs suddenly so interested in the national debt?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:24 am
This seems to be a main talking point if the pro-tax & spend crowd.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:26 am to Eli Goldfinger
Simple, it no longer fits their narrative for supporting an increase to the debt ceiling or adding to the debt...
Pretty much the same for why conservatives support potentially adding to the debt at this point... Not arguing the tax plan will or won't, just being viewed from a different perspective...
Pretty much the same for why conservatives support potentially adding to the debt at this point... Not arguing the tax plan will or won't, just being viewed from a different perspective...
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:27 am to Eli Goldfinger
They're not; they're anti anything Trump or Rep
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:27 am to Eli Goldfinger
Its always brought up by the party not holding the purse strings. This will not change till the republic ends.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:27 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
This seems to be a main talking point if the pro-tax & spend crowd.
They aren't.
I mean. At this point, anyone who believes that rhetoric is insane.
This is a party with a significant faction if not majority that wants.
1. College loans forgiven
2. Free College Tuition
3. Single Payer
There is literally NO politically palatable tax increase that could absorb that shite. And not a one of them cares about that.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:27 am to goatmilker
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:28 am to Eli Goldfinger
No Presidential candidate this century save for Ron Paul actually cares about paying down the national debt.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:29 am to Eli Goldfinger
Same reason conservatives became interested immediately after bush started wars that we couldn’t pay for.
Jesus are y’all so damn slanted that you can’t see it’s the same game for both sides?
Jesus are y’all so damn slanted that you can’t see it’s the same game for both sides?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:30 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:What?
Why are libs suddenly so interested in the national debt?
I remember libs complaining loudly about Obama adding $9 trillion to the debt.
NOT!
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:31 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Why are libs suddenly so interested in the national debt?
Because a republican is in office.
They care about the middle east now too.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:42 am to olddawg26
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Same reason conservatives became interested immediately after bush started wars that we couldn’t pay for. Jesus are y’all so damn slanted that you can’t see it’s the same game for both sides?
In terms of policy......PERMANET > Temporary
I submit you would get a majority of Democratic voters to say "yes" in support of Free College, College Loan Forgiveness and Single Payer.
Those 3 together make any expense spent thus far in the various wars since 2001 look like pocket change. And that's just in contemporaneous time frames. But wars EVENTUALLY end.
Permanent programs are.........well.........permanent.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:43 am to member12
The most ironic part about the left not caring about the deficit, historically, is that the deficit is simply the fed government selling IOUs to the federal reserve (mostly) and putting newly printed money into circulation, increasing the money supply and increasing inflation. What is ironic about that is the poorest people are the ones who lack hard assets and are the most hurt by inflation. If inflation is 4% per year, thats a 4% tax increase on the everyone who holds dollars every year. People who don't own real estate or have other assets are unfairly hurt by this hidden tax via inflation. Dems want the government to spend well into a deficit to "help" the poor and the poor are paying for it and don't even know it.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:45 am to ShortyRob
That’s a little detailed for the OP’s question and my answer, and a well deserved conversation on a nother thread, but my point was that both sides are hypocritical about spending when the ‘other guy’ is in office. I think we can all agree.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:48 am to olddawg26
quote:
That’s a little detailed for the OP’s question and my answer, and a well deserved conversation on a nother thread, but my point was that both sides are hypocritical about spending when the ‘other guy’ is in office. I think we can all agree.
Well yes.
But speaking for myself(which is all I can do), while I hate deficits PERIOD......I hate deficits created by practically irrevocable shite a LOT more than I hate them created by temporary shite.
I also know from experience that estimates of the cost of permanent programs have literally NEVER been close to correct. NEVER.
For example. Left untouched from its inception........you'd have been able to pay for all future wars simply with the Obamacare overruns.
So. Yeah. My reaction to deficits created by wars is not the same for the reasons articulated above.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:51 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Why aren't "conservatives" interested in the national debt anymore?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:52 am to ShortyRob
The war excuse damns us.
The only acceptable budget for war defense is 10 cents less than the previous year.
The entire budget should be a billion less each year.
Deal with the deficit now.
This budget is bizarre.
Bueller?
Voodoo economics.
The only acceptable budget for war defense is 10 cents less than the previous year.
The entire budget should be a billion less each year.
Deal with the deficit now.
This budget is bizarre.
Bueller?
Voodoo economics.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:54 am to Eli Goldfinger
When an idiot cuts revenue and ups spending everyone should pay attention. It’s a time bomb you and I will pay for.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
They are worried that it may cut into the handouts.How can they win W/O promising free shite?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:59 am to CelticDog
quote:
The only acceptable budget for war defense is 10 cents less than the previous year. The entire budget should be a billion less each year. Deal with the deficit now. This budget is bizarre.
So I ask. If you were casting a vote would you vote yes or no on:
1. Free College
2. Student Loan Forgiveness
3. Single Payer
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:01 am to Eli Goldfinger
because we are better at taxing/spending and you frickers are doing it all wrong.
Seriously though, i dont know.
Seriously though, i dont know.
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