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re: Why are Democrats skyscreaming about RFK Jr?

Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by oldskule
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:09 pm to
I really like RFK.....he is a pleasure to have on the team.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:12 pm to
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If it was anybody else it would have more clout. Autism has been around for ages and saying you will have the answer by the Fall is a bit cray cray.


Wasnt there just a clinical trial released a few weeks ago proving that the odds of becoming autistic for the unvaxed were way less likely than vaxed? Supposedly the medical community has known about these trials for some time and has done nothing about it.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5494 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:14 pm to
To the progs it's a cool thing. An autistic person is an accessory to them.

They get points. I'm not sure how their point system works. I'd guess a minority, trans, autistic would top it all.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
45841 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:15 pm to
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Money


Correct.


As I first heard Buddy Roemer say, if you want to understand politics, "Follow the Money."

$$$
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15550 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:39 pm to
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It’s not a mystery. Broader diagnostic criteria, increased awareness and education, and easier access for testing and screening.

1 in 30 is the normal incidence of autism?

Do you believe that’s a normal distribution?
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4620 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:23 pm to
“Vaccines and red dyes in our food don’t cause autism”

And you know this, how?
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4551 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:38 pm to
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1 in 30 is the normal incidence of autism? Do you believe that’s a normal distribution?


Autism is a spectrum of disorders. Included in that 1 and 31 number are individuals ranging from low support needs (think Sheldon Big Bang theory or Ben Affleck in The Accountant) to high support needs (Rain Man). What is a “normal” distribution, I have no clue, but I do think it’s important to understand how broad and diverse the autism spectrum is when discussing these matters.

Point being, when people say “we didn’t have autism when I was a kid”, you actually did you just didn’t call it autism or even know the word.
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4551 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:51 pm to
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This is the dumbest explanation of them all by far. If this is the case then like RFK said where are allllll the autistic people born in the mid 80’s and before?? You can’t tell me because there isn’t.


I was born in the 80’s and I’m likely on the spectrum, but to answer your question on where all the autistic kids were. Institutionalized, kept at home, kept in segregated special ed classes. They were there, you probably just called them the short bus kids or “retards”.

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I don’t know one person my age or older that has non verbal or non functioning autism. Had zero in school growing up.


Largely because schools didn’t have proper accommodations for them. Even now, while most kids know someone with autism, very few I’d imagine know any or go to school with kids who have high support needs. Most schools don’t have the accommodations for kids with high support needs, particularly in smaller school districts.

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I personally know many people (sadly) who have non verbal autistic kids including family members. And EVERY SINGLE ONE can tell you when it happened and right after an event did it happen.


Sure you do.
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The main thing RFK is gong to do is release the data that the cdc has kept locked up for 20 years. DID YOU KNOW that they’ve kept a database internally that’s funded by our tax dollars but they’ve refused to release the data to the public?? Bet you didn’t and I wonder why they won’t release it. That’s what RFK is using for the studies most likely. The data is there and there’s been multiple whistleblowers that have been silenced. Call me crazy I don’t care because it will be proven.


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Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2859 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:38 am to
If all it takes to increase the rate of autism is better/broader diagnosis then it would be true for ALL age groups. Then we can easily prove if the older generations have more occurrences. Show us the 1 in 31 adults over 50 who have autism. Show us the 1 in 31 adults in nursing homes with autism.

That’s like saying there are more occurrences of obesity because we have more scales these days.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 8:39 am
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4551 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 9:39 am to
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If all it takes to increase the rate of autism is better/broader diagnosis then it would be true for ALL age groups. Then we can easily prove if the older generations have more occurrences. Show us the 1 in 31 adults over 50 who have autism. Show us the 1 in 31 adults in nursing homes with autism. That’s like saying there are more occurrences of obesity because we have more scales these days.


The 1:31 number is based on the number of children who have received a diagnosis by age 8. So children over 8 and adults aren’t included in this stat.

The topic of adult diagnosis hasn’t been studied a ton, but what is out there does show there has been an increase in adults receiving diagnosis later in life.

Study on Autism Rates

From the above:

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In this cross-sectional study of electronic US health and insurance claims records for over 9 million individuals per year from 2011 to 2022, relative increases in autism diagnosis rates were greatest among young adults compared with all other age groups,


Additionally, there have been plenty of reports showing adults are starting to seek diagnosis as they become more aware of what autism is and the signs:

More adults are wondering if they have autism.

All that said, many adults simply don’t seek diagnosis if they didn’t already receive one as a kid. Receiving a diagnosis is expensive and most diagnosticians are focused on recognizing markers in children not adults. Therefore, finding somewhere that will diagnose an adult can be quite difficult, even putting aside costs. Also many adults don’t see the point in getting diagnosed. There isn’t medication for autism like ADD/ADHD, so there only option would be therapy (which is also expensive).

I absolutely guarantee you know and have met adults and seniors who are autistic. You just didn’t know it and they likely didn’t know. Likely they’ve just always been viewed as “a little bit odd” or “a little bit different”.

This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 9:44 am
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