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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:51 pm to DaBama
quote:
How so?
Someone who disparages large swaths of people as dirty and drains on society has a better than average chance of being a racist.
Also, they probably have a better than average chance of being dirty and a drain on society.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:01 pm to Old Sarge
You aren't. Screw the left
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:04 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
quote:
Some people that Rob banks do so for a better life, fleeing poverty and other horrible things. Of course I prefer them to go through the official paths. But I also recognize that we're talking about human beings here - nationality aside - with families and livelihoods, and I prefer to keep the conversation in respectful and empathetic terms.
Why does it feel so different if you just change a few words??
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:08 pm to Old Sarge
quote:
Why am I a racist for wanting to end illegal immigration?
You aren't.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:40 pm to Crimson1st
I am not liberal
I am in favor of very strong preventative measures to curb illegal immigration
I am in favor of punitive measures for criminals and this includes illegal aliens. However, due to realized expense, indiscriminate mass deportation is likely not the best method. In an effort to not encourage further illegal immigration, fast tracking citizenship for all US residing illegals is also not the best option.
To answer the OP, I believe the origin and causality of this vile attack on those opposing illegal immigration is multifactorial.
It starts when liberals either fail to acknowledge illegal immigration is ILLEGAL, or place no negative value on that infringement of the law. Simply stated, with the media's help, many don't see the harm in this criminal activity.
Couple that with a dissolving sense of work ethic and personal accountability which is rampant in liberal circles. No longer is the unmotivated, self-indulgent, physically and mentally capable, adult with his hand out consumed with self loathing or embarrassment. No longer is that person looked down upon by society. Instead they are viewed as revolutionary, principled, pure to their emotions and feelings and justified in their inactivity and entitlement. Just look at all the people needing safe places, mental health breaks from work and school, and ever increasing tolerance for their ineptitudes.
This breeds an economic disconnect between supply and demand. An inability to acknowledge that the supply of money from those earning is not endless, combined with the belief that the social requirement to fund others is limitless.
Then there is the empathetic plea to humanity that these criminals have established lives, family, and are "doing their part". By sensationalizing their struggles and fears of facing penalties for illegal activities the media has been instrumental in delivering a portion of the American public to this place of sympathy and empathy.
The result is a sorrowful empathetic economically confused liberal who is left searching for an answer to why fiscal conservatives want to restrict impoverished needy humans from improving their lives and why they would want to apply penalties to good hard working contributing members of our society. They search for a common possible causality, an ideology that is different than theirs that may be blamed. In their infinite wisdom they have decided racism must be the motivation for this desire. Conveniently, that reason is a detested indefensible position that negates the need for any further conversation or debate.
I am in favor of very strong preventative measures to curb illegal immigration
I am in favor of punitive measures for criminals and this includes illegal aliens. However, due to realized expense, indiscriminate mass deportation is likely not the best method. In an effort to not encourage further illegal immigration, fast tracking citizenship for all US residing illegals is also not the best option.
To answer the OP, I believe the origin and causality of this vile attack on those opposing illegal immigration is multifactorial.
It starts when liberals either fail to acknowledge illegal immigration is ILLEGAL, or place no negative value on that infringement of the law. Simply stated, with the media's help, many don't see the harm in this criminal activity.
Couple that with a dissolving sense of work ethic and personal accountability which is rampant in liberal circles. No longer is the unmotivated, self-indulgent, physically and mentally capable, adult with his hand out consumed with self loathing or embarrassment. No longer is that person looked down upon by society. Instead they are viewed as revolutionary, principled, pure to their emotions and feelings and justified in their inactivity and entitlement. Just look at all the people needing safe places, mental health breaks from work and school, and ever increasing tolerance for their ineptitudes.
This breeds an economic disconnect between supply and demand. An inability to acknowledge that the supply of money from those earning is not endless, combined with the belief that the social requirement to fund others is limitless.
Then there is the empathetic plea to humanity that these criminals have established lives, family, and are "doing their part". By sensationalizing their struggles and fears of facing penalties for illegal activities the media has been instrumental in delivering a portion of the American public to this place of sympathy and empathy.
The result is a sorrowful empathetic economically confused liberal who is left searching for an answer to why fiscal conservatives want to restrict impoverished needy humans from improving their lives and why they would want to apply penalties to good hard working contributing members of our society. They search for a common possible causality, an ideology that is different than theirs that may be blamed. In their infinite wisdom they have decided racism must be the motivation for this desire. Conveniently, that reason is a detested indefensible position that negates the need for any further conversation or debate.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:11 pm to Old Sarge
quote:Usuall trying to whip you back into line using their [i]politically correct[/i] shite-for-brains explanations.
Responses so far:
Fuuk politically correct shite!! Hang some kind of phobia on me. I don't give a shite. It's law and this unredeemable deplorable is tired of useless Soros puppet for a president purposely not enforcing the very laws he was sworn to enforce.
MAGA
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:13 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
quote:
might as well just let everyone and their mom in. and then give them free healthcare, and make the tax paying citizens pay for it!!
The irony here is that illgals pay taxes they dont get back bc they're illegals
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:15 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:
The irony here is that illgals pay taxes they dont get back bc they're illegals
Seems like a fair trade. You don't get arrested and you don't get any potential refunds. Not a good deal?
Of course, they can always return home, pay taxes and get what ever legal benefits they are entitled to receive. That's probably asking too much though from the bubble boys. I get that.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 8:46 pm to yallallcrazy
Because they are different words and mean different things? Did you think that was a cogent thought?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:05 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Someone who disparages large swaths of people as dirty and drains on society has a better than average chance of being a racist.
What if that person just wants the laws of the country to be enforced?
What is wrong and continues to this day; is an administration ignoring the law and advocating that it be broken for political purposes. The only reason Dems want them here is to vote Democrat.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 9:58 pm to Old Sarge
You are not a racist
The United States of America is governed by laws...
Liberals don't like laws that don't fit their agenda
Liberalism is a mental disorder
The United States of America is governed by laws...
Liberals don't like laws that don't fit their agenda
Liberalism is a mental disorder
Posted on 12/6/16 at 10:37 pm to Old Sarge
Illegal immigration should be stopped. But shouldn't we make it easier for people to move here? If people want to live in our great country, why not let them? Why make it so difficult to move here?
Also a wall is a stupid expensive idea. A wall isn't going to stop illegal immigration and it is going to cost a lot of money. I really hope this does not happen. If we want to create infrastructure jobs, lets build up our roads and bridges. Let's build a bad arse high speed passenger train system. Let's innovate what we have to make our lives better instead of building a wall that will get torn down in a few decades by future leaders.
Also a wall is a stupid expensive idea. A wall isn't going to stop illegal immigration and it is going to cost a lot of money. I really hope this does not happen. If we want to create infrastructure jobs, lets build up our roads and bridges. Let's build a bad arse high speed passenger train system. Let's innovate what we have to make our lives better instead of building a wall that will get torn down in a few decades by future leaders.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 11:32 pm to Old Sarge
NYC has lots of illegal Irish immigrants. Do you feel the same way about illegal immigrants from Western Europe? Even if you don't, that doesn't necessarily make you racist because the cultural differences may be the issue.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:42 am to Easy
quote:
Do you feel the same way about illegal immigrants from Western Europe?
yes
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:45 am to AggieDub14
quote:
If people want to live in our great country, why not let them? Why make it so difficult to move here?
As long as they can support themselves and not be on the dole, fine. They have to have a job or money to live off of until they find a job prior to arriving. They have to have a sponsor otherwise willing to support them and that sponsor cannot be the government.
Good with that?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:59 am to Pettifogger
quote:Racist or xenophobe?
has a better than average chance of being a racist
It's nice that you have an opinion albeit totally misinformed.
quote:Get out into the real world and look around. They are everywhere around here. They need to go home and obey our laws on how to enter legally and become a useful part of society.
who disparages large swaths of people as dirty and drains on society
Sure, I have compassion but I am more concerned about the future of my grandkids.
So label me whatever the shite you want to. I really DGAF about your politically correct shite. That got old a long time ago.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:25 pm to roadGator
Yeah, 100% good with that.
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