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re: Who thinks that groceries and crap from Lowes will be cheaper when Trump's elected?

Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7256 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:54 pm to
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2.25 vs 2.26 is one penny you moron.




$2.25 is also less than $2.53, $2.81, and $2.69

Again, you need to go back and look at the graph. Whose the moron now?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48915 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Again, you need to go back and look at the graph. Whose the moron now?


I said it was one cent cheaper in one year. That is a fact. It is not my fault you aren’t smart enough to grasp that fact.

Trump’s average is also well below Obama’s. You are still and will always be a moron.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7256 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:56 pm to
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What we are hoping is printing out of free money will end and thus less inflation going forward.



That's not Trump's economic policy. He will spend at minimum at the same rate as Biden has and very likely more. Trump is not has never been and never will be a fiscal conservative. He is a big spending liberal who worries about the 'debt' later and declares bankruptcy. That is Trump's mantra.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48915 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:58 pm to
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worries about the 'debt' later and declares bankruptcy. That is Trump's mantra.


You dumb idiot. Ask any billionaire there is how many of their ventures fail? Every single one of them has failed ventures. He is still a billionaire. Trying to make fun of a business failing is idiotic. Do you know how many of his ventures have been successful.

It is clear you have never had a single venture or business. You would know what a dumb argument you are making if you had.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7256 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:58 pm to
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I said it was one cent cheaper in one year.


And proceeded to leave off the other three

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Trump’s average is also well below Obama’s.


Well yeah one was in office for 4 years and one 8. One had the benefit of a global pandemic to suppress prices and one didn't the graph clearly shows where prices were headed if not for covid (which Trump bungled the hell out of and gave us the worst economic times since 1946)
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48915 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Well yeah one was in office for 4 years and one 8


Pick 4 consecutive years and do the math. Moron.

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One had the benefit of a global pandemic


Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7256 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Pick 4 consecutive years and do the math. Moron.


Why consecutive? I mean Trump had low prices right? Why should it matter what years are chosen? You can't compare 8 years to 4. We have the data. Trump inherited low gasoline prices from Obama and then they proceeded to go up sans during a lock down pandemic where they still were not as low as Obama's last year. The facts simply do not care about your feelings on this.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48915 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:07 pm to
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Why consecutive?


Trump had consecutive years, right? If you want apples to apples pick 4 consecutive. Your dumb “argument” doesn’t work if you do…

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The facts simply do not care about your feelings on this.


Your lack of self awareness is staggering. Moron.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:10 pm to
Obama's best four years:
2016 - $2.25
2009 - $2.41
2015 - $2.52
2010 - $2.84

Trump's best four years:
2020 - $2.26
2017 - $2.53
2019 - $2.69
2018 - $2.81

Dubya's best four years:
2002 - $1.39
2001 - $1.46
2003 - $1.60
2004 - $1.90

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48915 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6477 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Trump is a big spender, so it's not like we won't still be printing a bunch of money.


Trump has often said he wants to devalue the dollar. When the FED raised rates during his presidency he railed against them. He thinks the dollar is too strong, and wants it weaker. You accomplish that by printing more. Trump is going to spend at least as much as Biden spends, and probably more.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7256 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Your lack of self awareness is staggering.




The irony. There is very little to no difference when it comes to Biden and Trump with regards to spending. Both are going to spend at record levels. Both are going to use 'stimulus' and other Socialistic policies for spending. I'm willing to recognize that its both Biden and Trump that have contributed to the inflation where you just blame Biden and give Trump a free pass for some bizarre reason despite the numbers and statistics we have. Trump winning in 2024 isn't going to change a thing as far as prices go. It is what it is right now because of two imbeciles named Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48915 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:20 pm to
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There is very little to no difference when it comes to Biden and Trump with regards to spending


Ok. Is it your contention that spending is the only driver of the economy?

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Trump winning in 2024 isn't going to change a thing as far as prices go


guess so….
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
1094 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:20 pm to
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But does anyone here think that groceries and crap at Lowes will be cheaper two years from now? That seems to be the hope for a lot of voters.

Lowering the cost of everyday goods should always be the hope of every voter, and they should make sure they vote for the person they feel will do this.

This is more important than voting for abortion and more gay/trans "visibility". Things that do absolutely nothing to improve society, and only destroy it.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
1077 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:20 pm to
Obama took oil from the reserves
https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/strategic-petroleum-reserve-obama-threatens-to-cry-wolf-again

quote:

With gasoline prices causing unrest among voters, President Obama is considering tapping America’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve. This purely political move would cause more harm than good—including costing American taxpayers $1.5 billion dollars.

Gasoline prices have surged 42 cents a gallon in the first two months of 2012, setting new records for the most expensive January and February ever at the pump. Americans now pay an average of $3.72 for one gallon of regular gasoline1, a 101 percent increase since President Obama took office.

When faced with voter anger over similar prices last June, President Obama sold more than 30 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) – a pool created for use only in emergencies to safeguard the U.S. economy and national security against severe supply disruptions. The SPR had sold oil twice before in response to supply emergencies. President Obama’s sale of reserve oil was for strictly political reasons




Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19981 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:22 pm to
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What’s done is done. The money is printed.
But you can slow it down, then work to decrease prices and increase GDP with policy.


A lot of things can help slow inflation like increasing the supply side, reducing useless and costly regulations, getting government out of the way of growth, progress and innovation, squashing the global warming crusade and opening oil development.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24870 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Looking at that chart Trump inherited low gas prices from Obama and then never got them lower they were higher under Trump's whole term than Obama's last two years.


Unfortunately, you have to take the good with the bad. Trump was amazingly consistent.

Given that, tell me what policies Obama implemented that were price friendly?

Remember, he bragged about prices going up in 2012. Prices were $1.85 when he took office and they were $3.59 in mid-2012. Obama's take? He was PROUD of the "gradual adjustment" in gas prices. He WANTED the prices to be high in order to make EVs, solar panels, and wind energy a more attactive alternative than oil. So why are you even arguing? YOU SHOULD BE UPSET THAT PRICES WEREN'T HIGHER THAN THEY WERE.

That's the real position you liberals support. If you were being truthful, you would be promoting higher gas prices as a good thing and a segue into a new green economy. C'mon, man up and quit trying to hide your intentions.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Is it your contention that spending is the only driver of the economy?


Everyone knows milk is the key...
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
616 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:28 pm to
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
1094 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:29 pm to
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It is clear you have never had a single venture or business. You would know what a dumb argument you are making if you had

Interesting that he ignored this call out since he's obviously capable of judging Trump's business history.
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