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Who has to be most enduring conservative legacy-trump or McConnell?

Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:24 pm
Most of trumps conservative work however great has already been undone.

The lasting thing is scotus.

Which is a result of McConnell.

Just think if he had let Garland out of committee-hell if that happens he gets appointed then trump may not even win because that was the one deciding factor for some peoples votes.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:25 pm to
McConnell's Supreme Court is going to be much more long-lasting and impactful than anything else Trump did.

Most of what Trump did has already been reversed and he couldn't even get the ACA repealed.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:27 pm to
McConnell is swampy a.f. but you can't deny the legislative work he has done.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36020 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:30 pm to
Trump singlehandedly brought about a political realignment that unified Democrats and neoconservatives. He's essentially purged the worst demographic of human beings from the Republican Party. He did what Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul couldn't.
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:32 pm to
SCOTUS will clearly have more long term effects. I honestly can't think of any Trump policies that he finished

The wall? Half built at best, and I'm pretty sure Mexico still hasn't paid for it.

Tariffs on China? Those seemed to peter out and China never reciprocated as promised.

Obamacare? Still there, in fact he probably helped it.


If we're just talking Conservative Legacy, the Turtle probably has this one easily.



Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36020 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:35 pm to
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Conservative Legacy

Trump's Presidency lifted the veil from the eyes of millions of people who used to believe what they were told by the mainstream media and who thought there was actually a difference between the two political parties. Trump, more than any other politician in my lifetime, has shown that a Uniparty does exist and that if you ain't invited and show up to the party anyway, you'll be destroyed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:37 pm to
SCOTUS isn’t just McConnell’s win. Giving him credit for Trump’s nominees is par for the Trump haters.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31863 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

McConnell is swampy a.f. but you can't deny the legislative work he has done.


Absolutely.

This ultimately is my point.

Do I think Mitch McConnell has MY interests at heart-hell no!

I do think that he knows how to govern and many more times my interests and his interests intersect than say Nancy pelosis and my interests.


This is what trump and some on this board fail to realize or just simply don’t care. There’s no reason to intentionally piss off your potential allies.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:39 pm to
McConnell is FAR more conservative than Trump.

It was Trump that wanted a third COVID stimulus right before the election and McConnell that stopped it.

It was McConnell and Ryan that passed a tax cut that Trump had to sign.

It was McConnell that put 250 conservative judges through the Senate---Trump didn't even know their names until the Senate had approved them.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31863 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
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SCOTUS isn’t just McConnell’s win. Giving him credit for Trump’s nominees is par for the Trump haters.



I think it’s fair to say that the most defining things for Trump is appointments of 3 SCOTUS justices.

1-gorsuch was available because Mitch held up Garland.

2-kav trump was strongly rumored to be about to cave and Mitch told him to stand by him


3-ACB Mitch sped through right before the election under immense media pressure.


I think Mitch can take just as much credit here
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118761 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

McConnell's Supreme Court is going to be much more long-lasting and impactful than anything else Trump did.


You act like McConnell could have done this without Trump.

It took both of them.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

The lasting thing is scotus.

Which is a result of McConnell.


No it isn't.


quote:

Just think if he had let Garland out of committee-hell


Mitch just gave the DEMS 2 more years to stack courts by undermining the election.


Frick you
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118761 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:44 pm to
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unified Democrats and neoconservatives


This is hilarious to me. Liz Cheney and Paul Ryan are slumber party buddies with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

It was McConnell and Ryan that passed a tax cut that Trump had to sign.



Lying China lover.


Trump ran on tax cuts!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Giving him credit for Trump’s nominees


You think Trump picked these names out of a hat?

No, this was all a long-term strategy by MM. The federalist society lists were coordinated with MM and other top GOP (aka, establishment) pols.

LINK

quote:

"Part of McConnell's goal was to make sure that Trump was getting the accolades that he needed to keep on doing what he was doing," Josh Holmes, an advisor to McConnell, told the newspaper.

He continued: "There was no shortage of effort to raise the profile of the judges issue so Trump would continue to have interest in it. Every time I saw Trump privately, he'd say, Mitch McConnell. Judges. Judges. Judges. The only thing he wants is judges."


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:46 pm to
“Just as much” kind of destroys your Op. Congrats. We got it done in the first page.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118761 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

I think Mitch can take just as much credit here


At least you are backing off a little. In the OP you implied Mitch was 100% for judges:

quote:

Which is a result of McConnell.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260404 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:46 pm to
McConnell for his Court management.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

McConnell's spending is going to be much more long-lasting and impactful than anything else Trump did.

Most of what Trump did has already been reversed and he couldn't even get the ACA repealed


Fify
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

It was McConnell that put 250 conservative judges through the Senate---Trump didn't even know their names until the Senate had approved them.




And due to Mitch undermining races, he is allowing the dems 2 more years to appoint and stack the courts!
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