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re: White Nationalist are not White Supremacist

Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:14 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:14 am to
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just as a white nationalist is not necessarily the same as a White Nationalist
So are you saying when the press and Dems state Trump is a white nationalist, they are simply identifying Trump as a nationalist who happens to be white, or are they asserting Trump to be a de facto member of the Aryan Brotherhood?
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:24 am to
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So are you saying when the press and Dems state Trump is a white nationalist, they are simply identifying Trump as a nationalist who happens to be white, or are they asserting Trump to be a de facto member of the Aryan Brotherhood?
I did not say either of those things
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:31 am to
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Your DU sycophants
You don’t know what you’re talking about. If you think I’m liberal, you’re an idiot. Shush.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:32 am to
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I am disappointed
Nobody cares
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:33 am to
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I did not say either of those things
Right. The MSM has repeatedly called trump a white nationalist. They mean one thing or the other by using the term. That meaning forms nidus for the OP. So what does the MSM mean when targeting Trump with the term?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:56 am to
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I am saying that a black panther and a Black Panther are not the same, just as a white nationalist is not necessarily the same as a White Nationalist. In both cases, the latter has a negative connotation.



Where can these white nationalist be found in the wild? Are white nationalist a protected species?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:37 am to
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Nobody cares
You care.
You care enough to respond.
You care enough to DV.
You care enough to melt.
You just don't care enough to think.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:42 am to
Nobody cares what you’re disappointed about. I didn’t even read the rest of the sentence.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:43 am to
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This is the latest attempt by the Lefties and the media to box all white people into a corner.



I know I mention Dan Bogino lots, but he makes good points.
He said a while back that we shouldn't let the left constantly change the meaning of words and we should simply not follow along.
He gave an example about how certain words like "infested" are now considered racist simply because the left says so. And a word that is today acceptable, is tomorrow, a word that can get you labeled a racist.
He also mentioned the Betsy Ross flag.
One day it's a symbol associated with our founding, then some leftist decides it's a symbol or racism, and we are now expected to follow. Just simply refuse to follow!
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:49 am to
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So what does the MSM mean when targeting Trump with the term?


They are basically using double-speak to paint him as a racist. They are using the term to describe nationalists, which it's probably fair to say Trump is one, and then inferring because he's white, and according to them has said racists things (he hasn't), he must be a white nationalist.
Posted by volod
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:59 am to
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And what the media is doing is exactly the type of misunderstanding generated admonishment that you just said you didn’t care about. This thread seems to indicate differently.


When you put race in front of anything it is a racial term.
It would be better for everyone is we just used nationalist if thats how you define yourself.

This goes for Blacks and every other race as well. Why cant we just be Americans instead of hypenated-Americans.
Posted by LegendaryOutlaw
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 10:59 am to
Hell, I’m white, I love the USA, and I love people of all races, as long as they are not holding up traffic in the left lane, then I hope you rot in f’ing hell.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:20 pm to
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we shouldn't let the left constantly change the meaning of words
They really don't "change the meaning". They just migrate terminology . . .

"Illegal immigration" becomes "immigration". Those who oppose illegal immigration are then termed "anti-immigrant".

"Anthropogenic Global Warming" becomes "Global Warming" which then becomes "Climate Change". Those who assess AGW science as highly suspect are said to deny climate change.

Healthcare insurance becomes healthcare.

Trump promotes MAGA. MAGA is a nationalist concept. Trump is white. Therefore Trump is a white nationalist. But White nationalist is a term descriptive of members of the Aryan Nations, therefore Trump is a racist.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 1:36 pm to
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"Illegal immigration" becomes "immigration". Those who oppose illegal immigration are then termed "anti-immigrant".
Amnesty would make them legal immigrants. Unless you support that, their argument holds some water.
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"Anthropogenic Global Warming" becomes "Global Warming" which then becomes "Climate Change". Those who assess AGW science as highly suspect are said to deny climate change.
You're right about this. Unless you want to give more money to the United States government, you are complicit in the earth’s destruction. I saw once when AOC used the term “climate delayers” and found it to be a refreshingly honest label, relatively speaking, since Republicans definitely do whatever they can to delay whatever Democrats want regarding climate change, but I haven’t seen the label since—must not have caught on.
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Healthcare insurance becomes healthcare.
Yes. Gross.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 1:46 pm to
Here’s the difference: I’m white anI love America.

I don’t have a burning desire to transform America to 100% white. I think, on balance, a diverse population is a good thing.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 2:56 pm to
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VOR
OMG
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 3:14 pm to
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Here’s the difference: I’m white anI love America. I don’t have a burning desire to transform America to 100% white. I think, on balance, a diverse population is a good thing.




Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 4:08 pm to
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I don’t have a burning desire to transform America to 100% white.
Of course not.
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I think, on balance, a diverse population is a good thing.
Absolutely.

And despite that, there is literally nothing that saves you from being accused of bigotry, racism, or xenophobia by demented, leftist, zealots.
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