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re: White House backs down in Gallagher fight

Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112917 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:49 pm to
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the Navy was given White House guidance on Friday that it can proceed as planned


Pretty sure the military is subject to civilian control

AND

Pretty fricking sure the President is the C in C
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:56 pm to
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I guess everyone who doesn't agree with you guy's is a traitor.


You guy’s what?
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
1008 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 3:59 pm to
Trump never defends his own. He can't even stop people in MAGA hats from getting their asses kicked by leftist mobs. Why would anyone think he's going to do anything other than tweet about this?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:06 pm to
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Trump never defends his own. He can't even stop....


Who would your choice be to replace him?

*choice is open to anyone in the country*

Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12447 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:09 pm to
Defense sec. fires Navy Sec.
backing down?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46288 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:09 pm to
He gone
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

White House backs down in Gallagher fight


#fakenews
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:12 pm to
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He can't even stop people in MAGA hats from getting their asses kicked by leftist mobs.


Troll better.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46660 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:17 pm to
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Marines are part of The department of the Navy.


Doesn't matter. The Marines have President Trump's back. The Navy is hit-and-miss.
Posted by Vise
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
312 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:21 pm to
There’s more layers than meets the eye.

Trump WANTS the review to go forward.
And what’s the best way to get the swamp to do something that Trump wants them to do??
It’s to say (via twitter so all see) that he doesn’t want something to occur.

The MSM will take it and run, CNN will air it 24/7, they will dig their own grave again.

Think Ukraine. If he just came out and tried to get people to look into Biden/Ukraine/CF. The msm would bury it. But if they think it’s something they can use to make trump look bad, the msm will plaster it everywhere.

Before this “perfect phone call” 75% of Americans didn’t even know where Ukraine was. Now everyone knows about it, and who was there, and what business deals were occurring.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103174 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:28 pm to
And SecDef just fired SecNavy over this case.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23057 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:30 pm to
This thread didn’t age well
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53000 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:32 pm to
Lol nice thread

You’re fired
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
1008 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:35 pm to
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Who would your choice be to replace him?

*choice is open to anyone in the country*


I mean, I'd rather have Pat Buchanan than Trump, and I'm not even a paleocon. (Trump once called him a Nazi, btw )

That said, it's a stupid argument. If your only defense of Trump is that it could be worse, that doesn't say much about the guy.

He consistently remains silent when his white supporters are attacked or railroaded by the "justice" system, but he'll raise hell about some retarded black rapper who causes trouble in Sweden, or pass ridiculous "criminal justice reform" garbage to allow violent blacks/mexicans to get out of prison early.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:36 pm to
Amazing how wrong the AP is these days
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74586 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:39 pm to
How much appropriations pie does the Navy want?
Posted by Vise
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
312 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:45 pm to
Correct.

But what seems to skip by most people is this little tid bit

“Esper and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley spoke to Trump on Friday regarding the case of Gallagher and Esper learned that Spencer had previously and privately proposed to the White House – contrary to Spencer’s public position – to restore Gallagher’s rank and allow him to retire with his Trident pin, the DOD said.”
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 4:56 pm to
quote:


Trump never defends his own. He can't even stop people in MAGA hats from getting their asses kicked by leftist mobs. Why would anyone think he's going to do anything other than tweet about this?


Eat your crow bitch
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
10434 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 5:00 pm to
Hey can someone tell me if this guy actually committed a war crime. Did he just take a photo with a dead terrorist or did he mutilate the corpse? It seems pretty cut and dry to me
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 5:12 pm to
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Hey can someone tell me if this guy actually committed a war crime.


If you listen to some of the people who were in the field with him, yes. There are multiple stories about extremely questionable/illegal behavior by the guy. But he wasn't tried for those incidents, he was tried for one incident of killing a captive and he was acquitted. They're obviously not that concerned about the photo, it was just piling on another charge. I guess they thought they had him so it wouldn't matter. Really, really bad optics on their part.
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