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re: White House and Spicer stop taking credit for stock market as it drops

Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:49 am to
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:49 am to
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Given that Obama presided over the greatest stock mark fail since the great depression this will be allowed.


Are you serious?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138928 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:50 am to
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Suddenly, it's not right to do that.
LMAO
Indeed.
After previously taking credit, that was just silly
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:52 am to
I don't ever give the president credit or blame for the stock market. Maybe he can influence some short term gains or drops due to confidence but he has very little influence on long term trends. That has much more to do with congress.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20073 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:54 am to
Trump can do no wrong in a Trumpkins eyes.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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42468 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:56 am to
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Trump can do no wrong in a Trumpkins eyes.


He can also do no right in a liberal hack's eyes like yours.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:57 am to
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Given that Obama presided over the greatest stock mark fail since the great depression this will be allowed. If anybody should understand front running it would be fans of USC and liberals


I just want to point out that this post has multiple upvotes on this board. Just wow ??
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:57 am to
In any case, it's likely that the stock market will tumble with the Federal Reserve upping interest rates. Like another poster said, it has very little to do with the POTUS.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:58 am to
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Trump can do no wrong in a Trumpkins eyes.


Another Little Rock leftist.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:00 am to
Great comeback, guy. Please tell me why any reasonable person should trust Trump/Spicer?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:02 am to
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I just want to point out that this post has multiple upvotes on this board. Just wow
If you look at the graph you'll see that technically it was at its lowest point just after he was elected. That low point was just a reaction to him being elected and really had nothing to do with the overall upward trend of the market.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:19 am to
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If you look at the graph you'll see that technically it was at its lowest point just after he was elected. That low point was just a reaction to him being elected and really had nothing to do with the overall upward trend of the market.


What?

The already floundering market waited several months after the election to react to Obama's presidency?

Does Obama also get credit for what came next? One of the greatest run ups in history...

If you want to get technical about it, Obama technically presided over one of the greatest stock market runs in history, without factoring in the unusual conditions.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:23 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:21 am to
Jesus. Literally EVERY SINGLE ADMINISTRATION DOES THIS.

Maybe I'm just jaded, but the president is a politician and all politicians spin things so they look good. You can scream drain the swamp as many times as you want, but he will still end up doing plenty of politician things.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:24 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:24 am to
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The already floundering market waited several months after the election to react to Obama's presidency?
According to the graph there was a downward spike in early 2009.

quote:

Does Obama also get credit for what came next? One of the greatest run ups in history...
No. As I previously stated the President has very little to do with the long term trends of the stock market.
Posted by nolaandy
Metry
Member since Dec 2013
452 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:29 am to
You are retarded.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:31 am to
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While the MSM, who refused to give Trump any credit for the big gains, suddenly blame him for any dips.


Wrong.

They said the stock market rose due to confidence in Trump's domestic policies. It fell because he can't be trusted anymore.

The MSM isn't the evil liberal boogeyman you think it is.

I'll even give you evidence:

Link

This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:35 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39687 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:36 am to
The Market drop is because investors fear that Trump's Health Bill may fail tomorrow; which will throw a wrench in Tax Reform. Simple as that.

If the Bill passes...the Market jumps 750 points minimum up front.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:39 am to
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According to the graph there was a downward spike in early 2009.




Man, great analysis. I stand corrected. The stock market dipped a few months after Obama took office. Must have been him. Do you trade stocks for a living?
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:04 am to
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The stock market dipped a few months after Obama took office. Must have been him
My post above clearly states that while the market will momentarily react up or down based on the the President the overall market trends tend to ignore the president. So Obama gets credit for the initial drop in the market in 2009 but not the overall market growth under his presidency. Likewise Trump gets credit for the spike in the market following his election but won't get credit for the overall trend the market takes over the course of his presidency.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27776 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:06 am to
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Given that Obama presided over the greatest stock mark fail since the great depression this will be allowed

Are you retarded?
So Obama can blame Bush but Trump can't blame Obama. That's racist.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138928 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:08 am to
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I don't ever give the president credit or blame for the stock market.
Well that's a mistake in some circumstances. This would be one. Trump proposed corporate tax revisions. If enacted, those reductions would obviously change earnings and P/E ratios. That in turn alters stock valuation. So the market (stock prices) rose in anticipation of revaluation. It has no basis in partisan appeal. It is simply a matter of less tax liability equating to increased earnings.

Now, in terms of yesterday, who knows what event or combination of events drive an individual day performance. One thesis floated was markets declined based on difficulty getting the AHCA passed. Fear is that AHCA failure might also translate to not passing tax reforms. But with nearly 5 straight months of market inclines, we are due for a pullback anyway. So it may just be time.
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