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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:40 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:40 am to BamaAtl
quote:If someone beat you about the head and face, would describe thst assailant as “maintaining bodily autonomy”? Clearly you would, as they can do whatever they want with their body, amiright?
I want to maintain bodily autonomy by allowing a woman to choose whether to bring a fetus to term.
That’s how stupid your premise is. There is no autonomy here.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 10:41 am
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:40 am to therick711
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The state can force you to give up hair, blood samples, can incarcerate you, can involuntarily medicate and commit you, etc.
When the state meets certain criteria, they can. Not as a blanket rule, without justification.
And we both know providing a hair sample and bearing a child are not the same level in terms of effect or risk.
Can the state force you to provide a kidney to transplant to an individual who is dying, provided you'll both live? It's to save a life, so you should have no problem with it.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:40 am to BamaAtl
In this thread BamaAtl set out to prove how stupid she is.
She could have saved the effort, we already knew.
She could have saved the effort, we already knew.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:40 am to BamaAtl
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The rights of one don't dictate that the other lose all autonomy.
Or their life.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:41 am to Dawgfanman
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Legally, since the 70s, viability is not considered in wether murder is charged in Alabama when it comes to a fetus.
Just whether the pregnant woman chose to have the fetus aborted or someone else violated her rights and killed it without her consent.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:41 am to oogabooga68
quote:Well that's almost as rare as a medically required abortion but Bamatool won't care.
Except Obama who as a State Senator advocated letting babies that survived abortions die of neglect....
Except the NY Legislature.....
Except the Gov. of Virginia....
Except the thousands of Democrats who refuse to advocate any number of "Born Alive Protection" acts...
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:41 am to BamaAtl
The dhimmicrats are the party of murder and slavery...not us.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:41 am to BamaAtl
quote:There is no autonomy. Premise failure.
They can't be forced to forgo bodily autonomy by the state.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:42 am to SOKAL
quote:Not only stupid but cowardly. Can't provide one shred of evidence to support her ludicrous claims.
In this thread BamaAtl set out to prove how stupid she is. She could have saved the effort, we already knew.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:42 am to Dawgfanman
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This is covered under the Alabama bill..
"grave risk to the life of the mother" isn't all we're talking about here. There are many more risks involved with pregnancy than death.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:42 am to genro
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IDX first involves administration of medications to cause the cervix to dilate. Dilation usually occurs over the course of several days. Next, the physician rotates the fetus to a footling breech position. The body of the fetus is then drawn out of the uterus feet first, until only the head remains inside the uterus. The physician then uses an instrument to puncture the base of the skull, which collapses the fetal head. Typically, the contents of the fetal head are then partially suctioned out, which results in the death of the fetus and reduces the size of the fetal head enough to allow it to pass through the cervix. The dead but otherwise intact fetus is then removed from the woman's body.
anyone that can read this and be ok with this happening for no other reason than the mother just not wanting the baby is a SICK individual.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:42 am to BamaAtl
quote:Liar.
All of them? I said try to bar, you guys aren't as successful as you'd like at preventing evil contraceptives from being available to lustful Americans!
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:42 am to genro
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Fetus, not baby.
You are THAT gullible. All you have do is change a word and now you are a-ok with killing human babies
"That which you call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
Shakespeare figured out centuries ago changing the nomenclature does not change the nature of characteristics of said thing.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:43 am to BamaAtl
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There are many more risks involved with pregnancy than death.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:43 am to Taxing Authority
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Would also imply responsibility and consequences for ending the life of another.
If that were the 100% guaranteed outcome and if contraception were widely available and 100% effective and if rape/abuse never happened, sure.
But none of that happens in that way, so we have to account for uncertainty. Clearly.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:43 am to BamaAtl
Autonomy? Holy shite..
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:43 am to FooManChoo
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You left off the rest of my statement: "so long as her actions with her body do not result in the deaths of others."
She has the right to not have her bodily autonomy superseded by another.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:43 am to BamaAtl
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if contraception were widely available
Beautiful in it's stupidity.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:44 am to BamaAtl
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She has the right to not have her bodily autonomy superseded by another.
Another what? Person?
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 10:45 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:44 am to BamaAtl
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if contraception were widely available
Condoms are available at every drug store and pharmacy. So is plan b. You are just lying in this thread
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