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re: When Beto says "We will take your guns"

Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Dogwalk
Perkins, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1093 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:22 pm to
I’ll bite, I think you are way off. No matter the incentive, LEOs as a whole won’t follow these orders. Most LEOs are gun owners, and all police forces are severely out gunned if they so chose to take on their local populace in a gun fight.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Exactly who is the "we" he is referring to?


Well, it won't be him, as he lacks the mental and physical courage to try.

It won't be LEOs or Military, because they have the right to refuse illegal orders.

All I know is this: Anybody tries it with me, they won't get my weapon, but they will get something delivered to them from said weapon.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10354 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:38 pm to
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I’ll bite, I think you are way off. No matter the incentive, LEOs as a whole won’t follow these orders. Most LEOs are gun owners, and all police forces are severely out gunned if they so chose to take on their local populace in a gun fight.

I'll believe it when I see it. California wouldn't be passing their new "red flag" laws (that even the anti-gun ACLU oppose) if they weren't going to be enforced by LEOs. They will be, just like everything else.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
4753 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:52 pm to
Beto is a wuss. When he got the flu shot he closed his eyes briefly and took a deep breath. I hope they gave the wittle boy a sticker and a sucker. If he gets someone's gun it will be because it was shoved up his crack.
Posted by Dogwalk
Perkins, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1093 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:02 pm to
The resentment for gun confiscation is so strong in our country that those LE Departments willing to confiscate better be prepared to fire on Americans as most will not give up their guns without a fight. As for California, all the unconstitutional gun laws they passed are strictly for virtue signaling.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27471 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:10 pm to
Why do we care what he says? He's a clown who is making his money the old fashioned way ...... through his wife. Dress wearing, skate boarding over indulged Ivy League puke
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71550 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:10 pm to
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Exactly who is the "we" he is referring to?


He apparently believes "we" includes law enforcement...

quote:

Beto O'Rourke: Police will 'visit' AR-15 owners who refuse to turn guns in

After insisting American gun owners will "do the right thing" by turning in their firearms under his gun control plan, Beto O'Rourke said police will go door-to-door to confiscate AR-15s if people refuse to hand them over voluntarily.

"There have to be consequences," the Texas Democrat said Wednesday after MSNBC host Joe Scarborough pressed him on how he would get AR-15s out of the hands of Americans unwilling to give them up. "In that case, I think there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm and to make sure that it is purchased, bought back, so that it cannot potentially be used against somebody else."

The question came after Pete Buttigieg slammed the former El Paso congressman for his stance on gun control during Tuesday night's Democratic primary debate. The South Bend, Indiana, mayor accused O'Rourke of having no plan for taking guns of the streets.

O'Rourke had previously stated that he believes "Americans will follow the law" but that there would be "consequences from law enforcement" if they don't. However, he did not clarify until Wednesday that police officers would "visit" people to take their guns away.

During last month's debate, O'Rourke said, "Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47." The comment was met with swift condemnation by Republicans and many Democrats who said it was tantamount to confiscation.

Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14989 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:13 pm to
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All LEO



Some wishful thinking here. Sheriff's across the country, including mine, are on record saying they wouldn't consider enforcing such a thing even if they did try it. The left wing needs to forget that wet dream of taking our guns, it ain't happening
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:17 pm to
You are very wrong. Most LEOs have limited job options and are barely getting by. If they are facing termination for insubordination, they’ll carry out the orders.

I don’t know how this is even in question...the same thing has played out countless times throughout the last 100 years around the world.

The same people saying LEO will not act on this are the people that trusted the IC prior to the last 2 years.

90% will be taking your guns...at least. Same for military.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:21 pm to
the same "we" that every GOP backer said would take their guns during the Obama administration.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:24 pm to
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The only question I have is how much of the populace is willing to pull the trigger on the man coming to confiscate your firearm? I think the number is far fewer than what many here think?



A gun battle? Lol. Police live amongst us. In our communities. They are our neighbors. We know where they sleep at night. Where their wives work. What their routine schedules look like. Good fences make good neighbors, and small details matter.

Insurgency is only rarely gun battles. Cops enforcing these laws would need security details for themselves and their families, both on and off-duty.

Hint: there aren't enough police personnel in existence to keep them safe 24/7/365 if their neighbors want them dead. Most police know this, and they aren't coming to take your AR and risk you firebombing their house at 2am while their families sleep inside.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21872 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:31 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4470 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:50 pm to
He was pressed that when he said US citizens would follow the law.. and said that criminals don't follow the law.. what does he propose.. he had no answer..


I think someone should ask him what he would do if cities, counties or states declared themselves as gun sanctuaries and told police not to cooperate or enforce the gun confiscation.. What would he do then?
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20868 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:58 pm to
So now Beto wants the police going door to door? Can you imagine? That is the day freedom is gone and we are truly a police state! The police better wear body armour and bring extra body bags because a lot of them would be picked off from homeowners! After the debate last night, Beta Boy was exposed as totally inept and incompetent, not that most of us didn't already know!
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6614 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:06 pm to
Beto is such a douche nozzle.
Posted by Dogwalk
Perkins, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1093 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:31 pm to
I’ll make a friendly wager with you my man, IF it ever comes to gun confiscation, I’ll give you every dollar I have if only 10% of LEOs refuse that order. You are delusional if you think the other 90% love their job so much, that for the small paycheck they get, risk getting into a gun fight going door to door enforcing an unconstitutional order.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
1803 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:37 pm to
The number may not be that high, but to assume it will not be astronomically high is wishful thinking too.

Look at other nations in which the same thing has happened, like Germany, Russia or even New Zealand and Australia. In the later two, shots weren’t fired because law abiding citizens end up abiding by the law.

You pay astronomical taxes every year dutifully...likely well above what our forefathers intended...because you obey the law.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:41 pm to
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incentivized to seize and keep other assets from the targets like they do with drug raids.

Exactly. They will be bribed into doing it. The good ones will refuse but there are thousands of brown shirts/ antifa that would love the power trip.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11443 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:41 pm to
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I think the number is far fewer than what many here think?


You need to get out to rural America a little more often. It would be all out war outside of the cities in the Southern United States.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 8:45 pm
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