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re: What's Your Covid Jab Opinion?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:05 pm to Flats
Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:05 pm to Flats
I'm still quite intrigued with the politics of it all from the 2020 Election through Year 2021.
President Trump in 2020: "We are going to have an effective and safe vaccine by the end of the year. We will cut red tape, and we will deliver."
Trump's base: "See...once again, President Trump knows how to cut through red tape and get shite done."
Democrats and the Mainstream Media: "There are grave concerns that President Trump is going to rush an unsafe vaccine before the election just so he can get re-elected, and people might die from taking it."
Vaccine is approved, and Trump takes it on TV before the end of the year.
Biden is sworn into office.
Democrats and the Mainstream Media: "We need to require that every single American is vaccinated for COVID to stop the spread. The vaccine is 100% safe."
Over-dramatic Trump supporters who ignore what President Trump did and touted: "This vaccine is killing young Americans all over the place."
I will always wonder how the narrative towards the safety/effectiveness of the COVID shot would be different from the right and the left had President Trump won and was sworn back into office in January 2021.
President Trump in 2020: "We are going to have an effective and safe vaccine by the end of the year. We will cut red tape, and we will deliver."
Trump's base: "See...once again, President Trump knows how to cut through red tape and get shite done."
Democrats and the Mainstream Media: "There are grave concerns that President Trump is going to rush an unsafe vaccine before the election just so he can get re-elected, and people might die from taking it."
Vaccine is approved, and Trump takes it on TV before the end of the year.
Biden is sworn into office.
Democrats and the Mainstream Media: "We need to require that every single American is vaccinated for COVID to stop the spread. The vaccine is 100% safe."
Over-dramatic Trump supporters who ignore what President Trump did and touted: "This vaccine is killing young Americans all over the place."
I will always wonder how the narrative towards the safety/effectiveness of the COVID shot would be different from the right and the left had President Trump won and was sworn back into office in January 2021.
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:19 pm to ragincajun03
Just so readers will know
The studies that were conducted initially did not contain people that were harmed initially by taking the jab because they were unable to complete the study due to being in the hospital.
So in other words you were not counted as an adverse event if you were injured so badly you were not even allow to take the second dose.
The studies that were conducted initially did not contain people that were harmed initially by taking the jab because they were unable to complete the study due to being in the hospital.
So in other words you were not counted as an adverse event if you were injured so badly you were not even allow to take the second dose.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:21 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Big Pharma money grab and power grab by the Dems. Skeptical about any Covid mitigation benefits and would be worried about long term RNA damage if I weren’t in my 75th year. I took 2 as my wife was 80 and I needed any edge I could get. They dropped that virus to win an election and Fauci should be tried for Crimes Against Humanity.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:36 pm to RCDfan1950
Yeah we'll it didn't give you an edge.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:51 pm to NC_Tigah
Isn’t it true that mRNA technology was largely abandoned a few years prior to this experiment because of high mortality among the test animals?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:55 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
Were they a "major breakthrough in the fight against COVID-19" or not?
Each jab takes 7 years off your life
It was a breakthrough for sure
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:04 pm to Icansee4miles
No, there are mRNA treatments approved for treatment of muscular dystrophy and familial hypercholesterolemia and some other applications.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:07 pm to omegaman66
Probably not, O. The Ivermectin might have.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:17 pm to lsupride87
quote:
So then you are saying the Covid vaccine actually prevented non Covid deaths?
That's what the "died with, not because of" arguments amount to. The other main way to defeat provaccine arguments is to ignore the evidence/allege it's fabricated, etc.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:18 pm to Flats
ok
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:20 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
The other main way to defeat provaccine arguments is to ignore the evidence/allege it's fabricated, etc
LOL
You are still pushing this shite aren’t you?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:23 pm to bamadontcare
yeah
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:29 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
yeah
I assume you saw the side effects Pfizer had to release?
Dude
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:29 pm to idsrdum
quote:
Note that the placebo was not inert.
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I agree all the way round.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:32 pm to IvoryBillMatt
The 14 upvoters are complete idiots
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:34 pm to IvoryBillMatt
At best it did almost nothing.
At worst it destroyed all trust in the medical establishment, killed a few otherwise healthy people who took it, and cost a lot of good people their jobs.
At worst it destroyed all trust in the medical establishment, killed a few otherwise healthy people who took it, and cost a lot of good people their jobs.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:46 pm to IvoryBillMatt
The incentive of a $100 Visa gift card to receive the clot shot was kinda sorta a red flag. In no world is that normal.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 8:52 pm to Evolved Simian
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It show a lot of weakness that they couldn't adapt it and it became more and more useless over time.
There was/is SO much disinformation by the Covidians. How can an efficacy rate be established without knowing whether or not someone has been exposed to the virus after taking the jab?
My eating-chocolate ice cream regimen is a 100% effective vaccine against African Sleeping Sickness. Of course, my miraculous avoidance of African Sleeping Sickness MIGHT also be explained by my never having gone to Africa or having sexual contact with someone who has been to Africa (hat tip to a House episode). Granted, the efficacy of my ice cream vaccine might begin to wane if I go to Africa.
In addition to taking untold hundreds of thousands of lives (deaths of despair, outright deaths from the jabs, etc.), Covid hysteria has devastated basic reasoning.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:00 pm to IvoryBillMatt
That's reasonable objection at a low n, but it stops being plausible at population levels.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:15 pm to TigerDoc
TigerDoc, I really appreciate your knowledge and participation with those of us who disagree with you.
Do you think it was irresponsible to publish the early Pfizer stories of "98% efficacy" which, at the time, the overwhelming majority of Americans thought that that meant that if you took the Pfizer jab there was only a 2% chance that you would "get" Covid?
Those kind of stories destroyed my trust in public health officials.
Do you think it was irresponsible to publish the early Pfizer stories of "98% efficacy" which, at the time, the overwhelming majority of Americans thought that that meant that if you took the Pfizer jab there was only a 2% chance that you would "get" Covid?
Those kind of stories destroyed my trust in public health officials.
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