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re: What’s with all the feuding between conservatives?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:45 pm to cajuntiger1010
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:45 pm to cajuntiger1010
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Candace is grifting.
Candace may be grifting, but there is fire when there is smoke. Israel was trying to pressure Charlie on the days before his murder.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:48 pm to Neutral Underground
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Candace may be grifting, but there is fire when there is smoke.
Candace lost all credibility some time ago. There isn’t smoke because Candace Owens says there is smoke. In fact, if she says there is smoke, you should probably think “well she’s a moron that makes her money on outrage porn clicks, I probably should assume that the opposite of everything she says is true”
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:55 pm to dgnx6
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Explain that for us big brain.
Toppled Saddam, Basher Al Assad, Yemen, bombed Iran and continued financial support for the genocide occurring in Palestine.
572 of 582 congressmen are owned by AIPAC. Epstein files hidden, followed by re-education of US Politicians in Israel.
Nothing beneficial to the people of the United States has come from supporting Israel.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:01 pm to Indefatigable
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Candace lost all credibility some time ago. There isn’t smoke because Candace Owens says there is smoke. In fact, if she says there is smoke, you should probably think “well she’s a moron that makes her money on outrage porn clicks, I probably should assume that the opposite of everything she says is true”
Charlie Kirk was getting pressured and he refused to be bought by Israel. He refused $150M in funding for TPUSA from Bibi. He was invited to Israel for re-education and declined the invitation.
Those are his words, not Candace Owen’s or Tucker’s.
The point of this thread was why are conservatives fighting, not did Israel kill CK. It is their MO, but I wouldn’t say they killed him.
They are fighting because of their stances on Israel.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:12 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
Mainstream media conservatives vs social media conservatives
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:19 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
I have come to the conclusion the right side’s biggest threat is the right side.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:21 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:22 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:27 pm to cajuntiger1010
Israel is the primary wedge. Charlie Kirk was a staunch supporter of Israel but over the past year or so was getting increasingly irritated at pro Israel supporters calling his "moral character into question" (his exact words in the August 6th video Megyn Kelly/Charlie Kirk video linked below) if he entertained speculation that Epstein had Mossad connections, pointed at that they were losing support in the younger demographic or in any way did not 100% unquestioningly support Israel.
Israel Firsters like Levin and Shapiro were angry that Charlie platformed Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly (who also are increasingly questioning some things about Israel) at his Turning Point USA SAS weekend conference in July with Shapiro and Levin referencing the event on Levin's Sept 6 show and Shapiro stating that Charlie should no longer be the "preacher at the front of the church."
Since the Megyn/Kirk conversation on August 6th and recent random reports that Charlie Kirk had become fearful of the intensity of the behind the scenes pro-Israel condemnation and coercion, conservatives not enamored with Israel began fueling online rumors that Israel had something to do with the assassination. In recent days, Candace and Tucker have corroborated reports that Kirk had been under intense pressure from powerful people including Bill Ackman and even Netanyahu. Tucker has in no way implied that he thinks Israel had anything to do with Charlie's death. I haven't watched Candace so don't know whether she did or not. Both, however, are upset at the level of pressure he was under recently.
Netanyahu didn't do himself any favors trying to immediately leverage good PR for Israel from Kirk's death and in a weird move, went on Harris Faulkner's and Greta van Susteren's shows saying there was no truth to the internet speculation that Israel had anything to do with Kirk's death ...would've been much wiser to have ignored the rumors imo. It's unprecedented following an assassination for a prime minister of a nation to rush to say "We didn't do it." and only poured fuel on the internet flames.
It also doesn't help Israel's cause that any American conservative who has begun to question anything at all about Israel are quickly labeled by its staunchest defenders as anti-Semites, pro-Hamas or kooks (Shapiro's favorite public label).
Further stirring the pot is that Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes are next level anti-Israel and also happen to hate each other.
LINK to the August 6th Megyn Kelly Show interview with Charlie in which he's obviously upset at the personal attacks behind the scenes from Israel first folks. If you want to skip all the back and forth that's going on and hear Charlie's own words, this is the video to watch.
Israel Firsters like Levin and Shapiro were angry that Charlie platformed Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly (who also are increasingly questioning some things about Israel) at his Turning Point USA SAS weekend conference in July with Shapiro and Levin referencing the event on Levin's Sept 6 show and Shapiro stating that Charlie should no longer be the "preacher at the front of the church."
Since the Megyn/Kirk conversation on August 6th and recent random reports that Charlie Kirk had become fearful of the intensity of the behind the scenes pro-Israel condemnation and coercion, conservatives not enamored with Israel began fueling online rumors that Israel had something to do with the assassination. In recent days, Candace and Tucker have corroborated reports that Kirk had been under intense pressure from powerful people including Bill Ackman and even Netanyahu. Tucker has in no way implied that he thinks Israel had anything to do with Charlie's death. I haven't watched Candace so don't know whether she did or not. Both, however, are upset at the level of pressure he was under recently.
Netanyahu didn't do himself any favors trying to immediately leverage good PR for Israel from Kirk's death and in a weird move, went on Harris Faulkner's and Greta van Susteren's shows saying there was no truth to the internet speculation that Israel had anything to do with Kirk's death ...would've been much wiser to have ignored the rumors imo. It's unprecedented following an assassination for a prime minister of a nation to rush to say "We didn't do it." and only poured fuel on the internet flames.
It also doesn't help Israel's cause that any American conservative who has begun to question anything at all about Israel are quickly labeled by its staunchest defenders as anti-Semites, pro-Hamas or kooks (Shapiro's favorite public label).
Further stirring the pot is that Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes are next level anti-Israel and also happen to hate each other.
LINK to the August 6th Megyn Kelly Show interview with Charlie in which he's obviously upset at the personal attacks behind the scenes from Israel first folks. If you want to skip all the back and forth that's going on and hear Charlie's own words, this is the video to watch.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 11:31 pm
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