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re: What’s up with the Saudi Nuclear deal?
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:01 am to BoarEd
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:01 am to BoarEd
Yes.
Please check the post to which I was replying when I mentioned Sudan and the AA.
You assumed I included Sudan was in the same boat. I can see why you may think that but that is not correct
Please check the post to which I was replying when I mentioned Sudan and the AA.
You assumed I included Sudan was in the same boat. I can see why you may think that but that is not correct
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:05 am to AGGIES
quote:we gave the people responsible for 911 nuclear capabilities?
Considering the Saudis have been considered allies, it’s unclear what the motive is.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:18 am to COAUTiger
Gotcha.
At any rate, I'm sure there is a unique calculus that would go into the decision regarding any country pursuing a civil nuclear program and whether or not the US would want to help them build it. But the discussion here is Saudi Arabia. It, like any other country, is going to have its own unique set of circumstances.
At any rate, I'm sure there is a unique calculus that would go into the decision regarding any country pursuing a civil nuclear program and whether or not the US would want to help them build it. But the discussion here is Saudi Arabia. It, like any other country, is going to have its own unique set of circumstances.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:21 am to Byron Bojangles III
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we have the people responsible for 911 nuclear capabilitues
Are you saying the United States retrieved Osama Bin Laden's body from the depths of the ocean, reanimated his corpse, and gave him nuclear technology?
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:24 am to wackatimesthree
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Saudi Arabia has lots of money and can easily buy plans and hire people with the knowledge and expertise to design nuclear facilities to convert their civil grade uranium to weapons grade.
It will take a little while, but there's almost no chance they won't do it. They've already said they intend to acquire nukes if Iran gets them. And they've also refused to agree to international nuclear inspections.
What could go wrong?
But hey, Trump's son in law got his $2 Billion investment commitment from the Saudis, and Trump has been getting licenses from their government to put up all kinds of golf courses and hotels up over there, so what the frick?
If, in the news reports, the name "Donald Trump" was replaced by the name "Joe Biden", and the name "Jared Kushner" was replaced by the name "Hunter Biden", MAGA people would be losing their fricking minds.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:24 am to AGGIES
The deal needs to include the Saudi's taking in the entire population of Gaza in a mass migration, and developing the coastline into a paradise.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:25 am to BoarEd
Thank you Ed.
I will keep it to SA. I do have concerns for the long term stability of the SA government. Using 1917 Russia and 1980 Iran, you can see that a small group of radicals can over turn a government and shift the paradigm.
I will keep it to SA. I do have concerns for the long term stability of the SA government. Using 1917 Russia and 1980 Iran, you can see that a small group of radicals can over turn a government and shift the paradigm.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:26 am to Stinger_1066
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If, in the news reports, the name "Donald Trump" was replaced by the name "Joe Biden", and the name "Jared Kushner" was replaced by the name "Hunter Biden", MAGA people would be losing their fricking minds.
If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:26 am to lake chuck fan
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Saudi's radicals
Bin Laden was Saudi Arabian.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:30 am to COAUTiger
That's true, but it's also true for every country, including the US. And in fact, we are dealing with such an attempt as we speak. I don't see much utility in using that as justification for conducting foreign policy when we seem to have trouble with the exact same thing. In fact, I think that you can help stave off such outcomes through trade deals and infrastructure project investment partnerships that strengthen both nations. Rising tides raise all boats, and all that.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:31 am to nealnan8
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Bin Laden was Saudi Arabian.
Bin Laden had his Saudi citizenship revoked almost 10 years before 9-11.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:31 am to deeprig9
Ignite War or Peace in the Middle East?
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:36 am to BoarEd
I can completely understand that stance. But it's a HUGE risk v reward, and I personally feel the risks outweigh the reward. But I'm just a guy on a message board.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:38 am to BoarEd
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Whether you like it or not, Saudi Arabia has been a US security partner for decades whereas Iran has been bombing American interests for decades.
Can you elaborate on how KSA has provided any form of "security" for the United States?
The worst act of terror on US soil was perpetrated by 15 Saudi nationals. The government of KSA did nothing to prevent that.
They have not prevented the Houthis, Hezbollah, ISIS or Al-Queda from targeting US assets in the region. We have to deal with those groups directly.
We provide way more security for them than they ever have for us. Remember when Sadaam was threatening to invade KSA? Who bailed their arse out?
On top of all that, their oil production policies harm American companies and our economy.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 11:39 am
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:43 am to COAUTiger
I'll go into different waters for a second just to give my personal opinion on what's going on with Saudi Arabia. Trump's very first foreign nation visit as POTUS was to Saudi Arabia. I believe that while he was there he struck a deal with the Saud's to partner up in his fight against the "deep state." They were literally the first nation he got on board and they bent the knee. This was symbolized with his infamous "war dance" he did where he was given the honorary position of the actual king. Something that has never been done before and certainly not with a Westerner.
Why do I think this was so important to him? Well, other than the NSA, Saudi Arabia is the global leader in data collection and we find ourselves fighting an information war.
This is just my personal opinion on the matter, but I believe this is the reason you saw Trump and the Sauds cozy up to one another immediately. Don't forget, once he completed that trip they rounded up something like 50+ government officials, tried, and executed them for treason.
Why do I think this was so important to him? Well, other than the NSA, Saudi Arabia is the global leader in data collection and we find ourselves fighting an information war.
This is just my personal opinion on the matter, but I believe this is the reason you saw Trump and the Sauds cozy up to one another immediately. Don't forget, once he completed that trip they rounded up something like 50+ government officials, tried, and executed them for treason.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:44 am to AGGIES
Next time they can just nuke us instead of funding pilots to fly into major buildings and landmarks. WTF are we doing?
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:49 am to BoarEd
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Bin Laden had his Saudi citizenship revoked almost 10 years before 9-11.
Wrong... Bin Laden's citizenship was revoked on April 9, 1994, after he expressed support for the first 1993 World Trade Center bombings. Look it up...
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:51 am to Tigergreg
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If there ever comes a time when the Saudi government gets overthrown by the terrorists
Its a genie you cannot put back in the bottle. The Taliban were our friends until they weren't. Trusting a authoritarian like MBS who hacks his enemies to pieces without trial to honor an agreement is risky.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:51 am to BoarEd
Do you think some of Trump's personal / business connections could have heavily influenced that?
I am changing the discussion completely there so no need to respond if you want to stay on topic (and honestly, I don't think we could advance on that discussion either). Just something to ponder.
BTW. I appreciate your responses and keeping it civil.
I am changing the discussion completely there so no need to respond if you want to stay on topic (and honestly, I don't think we could advance on that discussion either). Just something to ponder.
BTW. I appreciate your responses and keeping it civil.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:58 am to Stinger_1066
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Can you elaborate on how KSA has provided any form of "security" for the United States?
1. Counterterrorism cooperation. After 9-11 Saudi Arabia became an important counterterrorism partner, as much as that is going to pain the people trying to finger them for masterminding the attacks. They have helped us, track terrorism networks, share intelligence on al-Qaeda and ISIS, disrupt financial channels, and prevent attacks.
2. Regional military cooperation. They host and support US military forces, allow access to bases and facilities, they participate in joint military exercises, they purchase US military equipment. We sell them F-15s, Patriot missile defense systems, THAAD missile defense systems, helicopters and armored vehicles.
3. Containing Iran. This is where the comparisons to Iran become absurd.
4. Energy security. We partner with Saudi Arabia in an effort to stabilize global oil markets. During the first Gulf War Saudi Arabia allowed hundreds of thousands of US troops to deploy from within Saudi Arabia. They also helped finance the entire operation.
5. Intelligence and regional diplomacy. Saudi Arabia has influence that the US uses diplomatically. Relations with other Arab states, religious influence in the Muslim world, and communication channels with governments Washington has limited access to.
Hope that helps.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 12:14 pm
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