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re: What’s up with the Saudi Nuclear deal?

Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:53 am to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14642 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:53 am to
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And we did in fact give them the tech to make nuclear power at that time


Another lie.

We did not give them any technology that would have allowed them to enrich uranium.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40737 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:54 am to
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How so?


For several reasons.

1. Civilian nuclear program =/= nuclear weapons, obviously.
2. Saudi Arabia and Iran occupy two separate strategic positions. Whether you like it or not, Saudi Arabia has been a US security partner for decades whereas Iran has been bombing American interests for decades.
3. The objectives are different. Helping Saudi Arabia attain civilian nuclear technology keeps them within a US aligned framework whereas "giving nukes to Iran" removes any leverage overnight and likely triggers an immediate regional arms race.
4. The US' position here is conditional and says, "if Saudi Arabia is going to do this regardless, US involvement is preferable. Your retarded analogy changes that premise into, "the US should actively proliferate nuclear weapons."

Try to be less retarded and learn to craft appropriate analogies.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98204 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:55 am to
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You would certainly know.



Personal attacks can get you banned amigo. No need for that
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24608 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:56 am to
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2. The Trump admin wants the deal, and really wanted to coerce a trade deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia, and used a little bait and switch to try to get the Saudis to agree.


I think it's more along these lines. Using some leverage to get the ME peace deal moving again. It would be good if Saudi led the way.
I think it's not a good look to add conditions to an already ageeed upon deal.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27275 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:02 am to
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In the future, if Saudi's radicals ever gain access to their nukes.....


This is the biggest concern. If there ever comes a time when the Saudi government gets overthrown by the terrorists, it would be time to move in.
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
377 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:05 am to
Qatar , UAE , Bahrain , Jordan , Kuwait , Iraq , Oman , Egypt , Kenya , Morocco and Tunisia are also considered US allies interested in civil nuclear energy. Based on points 2 , 3 and 4, the US should be good to extend the same offer to them before China offers to help
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:06 am
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40737 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:08 am to
And maybe we will. Maybe we won't. But those matters aren't under discussion.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:10 am
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7788 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:10 am to
non military nuke and contingent on signing Abraham Accord
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1967 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:22 am to
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contingent on signing Abraham Accord


That is the reason. Everything else is BS. At least one of you get it.
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
377 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:35 am to
Sudan signed the AA. You are good with the US helping Sudan develop civil nuclear technology?
We are also looking for Lebanon and Syria to sign the AA as well
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:38 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45403 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:38 am to
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So was that the “big win” some of you here were talking about?

Is it a good deal, or no?

And Is that deal still on?


We don’t know man.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40737 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:41 am to
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You are good with the US helping Sudan develop civil nuclear technology?


Why do you keep trying to reframe the discussion?
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
377 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:44 am to
The discussion is this a good deal for the US to allow SA to have nuclear facilities. The response has been they were going to do it so why not the US to help. If that response is good enough for SA, why not other countries in the exact same boat.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:45 am
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40737 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:46 am to
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If that response is good enough for SA, why not other countries in the exact same boat.


You think that Sudan and Saudi Arabia are in "the exact same boat?"

You're terrible with analogies as well.

And again, these matters you keep bringing up aren't under discussion.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:47 am
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
377 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:48 am to
Sudan was a response to having to sign the AA. Sudan has signed them.
I never wrote Sudan is in the same boat, you assumed I included them based on my reply to a different statement.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:52 am
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40737 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:51 am to
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Sudan has signed them.


Sudan is nothing at all like Saudi Arabia and your analogy is terrible. Do you need it explained to you why?
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
377 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:53 am to
I did edit my previous reply. Can you show me where I wrote that Sudan is in the same boat?

I may not have been clear but Sudan was my response to signing the AA accords.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 10:54 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6825 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:55 am to
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Nobody else we've ever helped has been allowed to enrich uranium domestically as part of the deal

So much anger from the hypocrite. Simmer down little man and tell me how we stopped the world's 16th producer of uranium ore from enriching it once they had the tech to do it.
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You might have to use the "MIC."

Such a big daddy government boot licker. Go wash your tongue little man. The boot had dog shite on it.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
40737 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:55 am to
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Can you show me where I wrote that Sudan is in the same boat?



You can't be serious.

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6825 posts
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:59 am to
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Another lie.

We did not give them any technology that would have allowed them to enrich uranium.

Really?
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History

Beginnings (1970s through the Iran-Iraq War)

Under the Shah, Iran launched a series of ambitious nuclear projects that relied on assistance from the United States and Europe. According to Akbar Etemad, the President of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) from 1974 through 1978, Iran was already carrying out nuclear research and education at the University of Tehran when the NPT—of which Iran was one of the original 62 signatories—entered into force on March 5, 1970. The work centered on a five-megawatt research reactor supplied by the United States, which began operation in 1967



What does that very last sentence say.

Google is your friend little man
History of Iran's Nuclear Program
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