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re: What’s the point of DOGE if spending isn’t cut?

Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:15 pm to
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You people, think, you need 60 votes in the senate to pass a CR, do you think the D's are going to let you pass anything w/cuts, I don't. So you pass the CR, comeback with budget reconsilation and cut spending to some degree. this is a game and you have to play, saying NO to everything will do you know good...


People come here and say idiotic things like this every time and every time nothing changes and every few months we end up right back here talking about another CR. DC is laughing at these stupid comments.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18448 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:37 pm to
Neither the GOP or Dems want the faucet turned off. Why hasn't DOGE started exposing GOP theft? We know it's there. It's because it's all a show.

At this point are we even sure Congress even knows how to pass anything but a CR?
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4906 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:44 pm to
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You people, think, you need 60 votes in the senate to pass a CR, do you think the D's are going to let you pass anything w/cuts


Shut down the government for a few months then. Put up a fight and force the democrats to accept cuts.

Instead we're being told that a big fight is coming in September, even though the situation will be identical.

GOP motto "We'll do what we promised next time"
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1701 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:45 pm to
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Massie wasn’t such an arrogant weasel he would understand. I would respect him a lot more if he would propose bills & act rather than just be a complete obstructionist


He and Rand Paul have both told people what should be done. They have laid out their plan to lower spending and cut deficits. What is the point of writing a bill that no one will ever read much less vote on? You just want him to waste his time?
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1701 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:47 pm to
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You people, think, you need 60 votes in the senate to pass a CR, do you think the D's are going to let you pass anything w/cuts, I don't. So you pass the CR, comeback with budget reconciliation and cut spending to some degree. this is a game and you have to play, saying NO to everything will do you know good...


I see you want to continue the losing ways of the Republican Party by always being the bitch of the Democrats. Republicans are always giving in. frick that
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4906 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:50 pm to
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At this point are even sure Congree even knows how to pass anything but a CR?



Didn't Mike Johnson promise to put an end to the CRs?

There's this terrible trend that keeps happening. A major "crisis" in the last year of a Republican President's term (Mortgage crisis in 2008 & Covid in 2020) requires the government to spend insane amounts of money on bailouts. Then the incoming Democrat maintains that level of spending throughout his term. Then when Republicans get control... we continue spending at those historic levels.

This country is heading towards a financial cliff and the only guy talking about it is being threatened with a primary challenge.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
9305 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:52 pm to
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Massie has been making this point.

Trump wants him primaried. 


The people elected Trump to implement his policies. Trump has a clear plan that anyone without TDS can see. Trump has been planning a total revitalization of the country for years. The people elected him to do it, and Massie is willing to screw over all his constituents and the entire country because it isn't exactly what he wants.

Like all the anti-tariff people who regularly take Ls, Massie is short-sighted. His only focus is reducing spending. He doesn't understand that building an economy makes it easier to pay off the debt. You can reduce spending, but if there's not enough money coming in, it won't matter.

Trump is trying to reduce the burden on average Americans by improving the economy, strengthening our production, and seeking external sources of government funding. Massie doesn't care about any of that. He's myopic and can only think about one variable - government spending.

It'll be easy to pretend this is a defense of government spending instead of acknowledging the actual point of how Massie's broken record routine is unproductive at best and counterproductive at worst, so hopefully no one will fall into that trap.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Didn't Mike Johnson promise to put an end to the CRs?



Yes, he did.

This will be at least his third one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:55 pm to
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He doesn't understand that building an economy makes it easier to pay off the debt.

We can't grow our economy out of our deficit, let alone debt.

And explain why this massive deficit spending is needed to "grow our economy", please.

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Massie doesn't care about any of that. He's myopic and can only think about one variable - government spending.

Because cutting spending, somewhat drastically at this point, is the only solution.

Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
2285 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:56 pm to
The deficit was 1.8 trillion last year

Not possible to cut that all out in one swoop, need to keep reducing the deficit where can, which is what DOGE is for

Really, we will need to cut social security and Medicare to save the country
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
56142 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:57 pm to
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Really, we will need to cut social security and Medicare to save the country


Agreed, but good luck with that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:57 pm to
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need to keep reducing the deficit where can, which is what DOGE is for

If Congress passes a similar CR to the last one, DOGE did nothing.

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Really, we will need to cut social security and Medicare to save the country

Yes, and Trump promised the opposite.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:57 pm to
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The people elected Trump to implement his policies.


Feel free to link where he campaigned on increasing the debt.

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It'll be easy to pretend this is a defense of government spending instead of acknowledging the actual point of how Massie's broken record routine is unproductive at best and counterproductive at worst, so hopefully no one will fall into that trap.


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Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4281 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 3:59 pm to
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this is a game and you have to play, saying NO to everything will do you know good...


Yes, and playing by the game has helped this country so much. Right now, Trump has the political capital.

Why not take a hard line and say that there will not be a CR until Congress approves a legitimate budget that cuts spending for FY 2026?

Why cave now and play the game only to keep playing the game next year and the next year?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131540 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:01 pm to
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The new CR bill will increase the debt so what the point of looking for waste?
This


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people.


Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:02 pm to
So Johnson isn't his boy anymore?

Trump attacks Massie for being against Johnson's huge spending bill.

hmmmm



This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Kid Ray
Member since Nov 2024
463 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:03 pm to
Would Trump be able to redirect the money into a "savings plan" to invest it possibly? Just brain storming here.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:05 pm to
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What’s the point of DOGE if spending isn’t cut?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452344 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:06 pm to
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This


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budget,


people.


Vance pitches separate cuts package as House GOP preps CR vote

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Vice President JD Vance told House Republicans on Tuesday that the administration would put forward a rescissions package to codify spending cuts as part of his attempt to convince GOP holdouts to back House leaders’ six-month stopgap spending measure.

Vance was not specific on the timing or vehicle for such a package, but said the cuts identified by the Elon Musk-led “Department of Government Efficiency” would be enshrined in future legislation, House Republicans leaving the morning GOP conference meeting said.

Republican leaders are trying to keep the rank and file on board for the continuing resolution that’s currently set for a vote after 4 p.m. Tuesday. Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., is a dug-in “no” vote, and a handful of other members have expressed reservations.


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In a rare appearance at a House GOP leadership news conference, the chairman of the rebellious Freedom Caucus, Maryland Rep. Andy Harris, expressed his support for the continuing resolution.

The Freedom Caucus traditionally opposes stopgap funding extensions, he said, because they typically lead to an omnibus package that allows for what they view as excessive spending. But the new continuing resolution would last for the rest of the fiscal year, through September, and represents a net cut in discretionary spending. “This is not your grandfather’s continuing resolution,” Harris said.


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Democrats are expected to widely vote against the measure, which would cut nondefense spending by $13 billion while giving defense spending a $6 billion boost, according to House Republicans.


$7B
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4906 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:06 pm to
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This


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Trump's


budget,


people.



He owns it. He's publicly threatening the only guy trying to stop the CR. You don't get to do that and then claim innocence.
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