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Posted on 12/4/21 at 8:52 am to Eddie Roger
All those mistakes and Trump still was a better choice for the country.
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Posted on 12/4/21 at 8:56 am to SDVTiger
Posted on 12/4/21 at 8:58 am to DaTruth7
So a one time stimulus check that he called for after the entire world shut down is the sole reason that we are in the current position?
What about the messaging that you talked about?
You don't seem to be a bright person
What about the messaging that you talked about?
You don't seem to be a bright person
Posted on 12/4/21 at 9:01 am to SDVTiger
His messaging was to shut down, then reopen, no no I mean shutdown. He was a flip flopping mess. I voted for Trump. But your inability to call a spade a spade is just dumb.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 9:01 am to DaTruth7
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His only big win was the economy and he torpedo'd it.
Your post is either grossly ignorant, or incredibly disingenuous. Either way, by espousing revisionist history, you look like the Democrat that you claim Trump to have been.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 9:03 am to DaTruth7
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His messaging was to shut down, then reopen, no no I mean shutdown. He was a flip flopping mess. I voted for Trump
Yeah you are a confirmed moron
Posted on 12/4/21 at 9:03 am to 87Hound
Not firing everyone
Posted on 12/4/21 at 9:10 am to davyjones
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That agenda was already well underway when Trump took office. And it clearly caused unprecedented obstacles for him.
Yep. And he did little to head it off besides rant about the "Deep State" on Twitter. He appointed Sessions and things went south at the DOJ for him.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 9:13 am to 87Hound
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IMO the only thing that Trump got “horribly” wrong, and it cost him his second term, is to not sweep the alphabet agencies bare and start from scratch. If he would have emptied the FBI, CIA, Joint Chiefs, etc., we would still be rocking and rolling and living in a country that we are proud to be in
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IMO the only thing that Trump got “horribly” wrong, and it cost him his second term, is to not sweep the alphabet agencies bare and start from scratch. If he would have emptied the FBI, CIA, Joint Chiefs, etc., we would still be rocking and rolling and living in a country that we are proud to be in
Would have had to do this either in the first two years while the Bob Mueller inquisition was in place, or, after the mid terms and a lost majority in the House.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 10:46 am to LSU0358
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He appointed Sessions and things went south at the DOJ for him.
Well you're not really wrong on that stuff, but the Sessions thing is a very good example of the often unprecedented challenges Trump had to endure, more often than not due to factors beyond his control. For instance with Sessions, it just wasn't realistic to suspect that Trump should've foreseen and averted that guy's idiotic move to recuse himself. Once it was done, there wasn't anything Trump could do that wouldn't have made the situation even worse. Now, of course Sessions' idiotic move was instigated by the Left's actions directly (the early stages of the overall Russia coup effort). So again we see Trump was effectively sabotaged by the Left and a number on the Right as well. If it's effective enough, it presented quite the quagmire for Trump.
I just won't blame Trump for being illegally sabotaged like he was. That's not right.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 10:58 am to Eddie Roger
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Letting Kushner run the administration
His biggest mistake by far.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:01 am to 87Hound
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IMO the only thing that Trump got “horribly” wrong, and it cost him his second term, is to not sweep the alphabet agencies bare and start from scratch. If he would have emptied the FBI, CIA, Joint Chiefs, etc., we would still be rocking and rolling and living in a country that we are proud to be in
You must have a short memory. The Russia Hoax took away his ability to put people he wanted in to head agencies. Remember how big a deal it was to fire Comey?
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:03 am to LSU0358
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Yep. And he did little to head it off besides rant about the "Deep State" on Twitter. He appointed Sessions and things went south at the DOJ for him.
So how was Trump to really know the power of the "deep state"? It was eye opening to me for sure.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:04 am to BillRose
No, they don't remember at all, but I guess I can see my way clear to cutting them a little slack. Literal record setting, unprecedented obstruction against Trump, very often even illegal, was so commonplace that most people took it for granted how malevolent it was. Every day. I guess people just got so used to it that it lost the outrage that it deserved then and still deserves now.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:11 am to BillRose
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So how was Trump to really know the power of the "deep state"?
How could he run for President and not know this?
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:17 am to LSU0358
Well of course Trump was fully aware of the concept and destructive nature of the Deep State, but I'm assuming you'd agree that it wouldn't be reasonable to expect that Trump have full knowledge of all its inner workings and reach and whatnot. By its very nature it doesn't exactly put its schematics on display.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:25 am to DaTruth7
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His messaging was to shut down, then reopen, no no I mean shutdown. He was a flip flopping mess. I voted for Trump. But your inability to call a spade a spade is just dumb.
Too bad you can't see that he was following Fauci's advice, something that still probably pisses him off.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:26 am to davyjones
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Well of course Trump was fully aware of the concept and destructive nature of the Deep State, but I'm assuming you'd agree that it wouldn't be reasonable to expect that Trump have full knowledge of all its inner workings and reach and whatnot. By its very nature it doesn't exactly put its schematics on display.
Or knowledge of who he could trust.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:30 am to Colonel Flagg
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The only way to perceive Trump had a disastrous first debate is to deny the obvious corruption of the debate. The whole debate was slanted dramatically against him with the questioning and moderator.
He did fine in the 2nd debate.
And here’s how he should have done the first debate and I said it for weeks leading up to it: Open the debate addressing the elephant in the room that Biden is clearly senile, say that Biden will be President in name only and not finish out his term, and say all his responses from this point forward are directly aimed at Kamala Harris who will be the actual President and people need to know who she is. That puts the debate on Trump’s terms regardless of what Chris Wallace does.
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