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re: What makes people more likely to be really into conspiracy theories?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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So do the internet blog and conspiracy message board cheerleaders
This is true.
That doesn't define all conspiracy theories however. It just really bothers some of y'all that people do reject mainstream opinions.
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:03 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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I am not a conspiracy theorist at all I mentioned that in my first post. I am a realist
You do realize that this is what every conspiracy theorist says, right?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It just really bothers some of y'all that people do reject mainstream opinions.
That doesn't bother me at all
Substituting mainstream opinions with crackpot theories that someone else spoon fed to you is illogical though. Those are the people that we have a problem with.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:05 am to dsides
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You do realize that this is what every conspiracy theorist says, right?
Man, the propaganda machine has fricked you mainstreams shits balls deep.
Every conspiracy theorist says that...
Black and white, the very average American.Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
If you really believe it it's not a conspiracy.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:07 am to Powerman
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Substituting mainstream opinions with crackpot theories
Another MSM lackey..
Yes, everything not said by the media is "crackpot."
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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That' either a very comic-ironic post or an incredibly self-unaware post.
Is this another one of your “daily experiments.” What a choade
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:09 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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I could give you a list of things why but I am done here
Best thing imo. Most of the time you will be talking with a person who has no desire to have an open mind to your thoughts. They're just waiting to speak at you again
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It just really bothers some of y'all that people do reject mainstream opinions.
I mean I've been rejecting mainstream opinions since I was a yute, long before I was even non-liberal
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:11 am to Deactived
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Most of the time you will be talking with a person who has no desire to have an open mind to your thoughts
I figure the people who lap up network news look like this..
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes, everything not said by the media is "crackpot."
I didn't say that
You're being intentionally stupid and I'm not sure why
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP I am Not a right winger extremist I live in the real world. Washington is where this corruption starts and that corruption bleeds throughout this country. I am sure we can all see that but honestly this country is at the great divide. Problem now is one side controls 90% of the narrative you watch late night TV, espn, any MSM? Call it what you will over 80 million voters voted for the otherside that doesn't control the narrative and since we really don't have much of a voice with that 10% here we are on Tigerdroppings.com and talking about conspiracy theories. It is really sad that this is what it has come down too.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:13 am to Deactived
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Most of the time you will be talking with a person who has no desire to have an open mind to your thoughts. They're just waiting to speak at you again
Well the problem comes when "he" is speaking with someone who already came at this with an open mind before it became a popular meme disseminated via partisan content channels, and derived opinions and beliefs long before NPCs started spreading pre-approved partisan content.
Like this is a psychological thing. They can't conceptualize this process and often just revert to memetic/NPC responses and then emotional outbursts. The irony is that they truly believe they are "free thinkers" when everything they say is repeating manufactured content.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:16 am to Powerman
I have no beef with people like you powerman or SFP. I wish there were better ways that both sides could put topics on the table and discuss rationally and not be called a Trumpin (really I am not DeSantis is my man) or a libatard.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
You've brought this up in this thread a few times regarding free thinkers. So if someone's argument isn't something completely original, they're essentially part of the npc crowd that is controlled by whatever entity delivers their side's content
In a close race to the bottom, the people that think they're above the fray are quickly catching up to the lead pack
In a close race to the bottom, the people that think they're above the fray are quickly catching up to the lead pack
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:20 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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Problem now is one side controls 90% of the narrative you watch late night TV, espn, any MSM?
I'm 39 years old. There has never been a year of my life where these institutions weren't controlled by the Left.
I was in college 20-ish years ago when I was still a liberal and I laughed at the liberals in class who tried to argue the news didn't lean left (while bitching about Fox News a few minutes prior or after).
JFK "won" the debates against Nixon because the media promoted the meme, and they did so for coordinated, partisan reasons. There is nothing "now" about this issue. Whatever power your side has lost over time is irrelevant to this issue because it was a constant the entire time.
To bring this back on topic, you're displaying how a coordinated talking point is an opening step to a coordinated, manufactured, and partisan conspiracy theory being proliferated. The people who control these narratives take a half truth, add in a believable wrinkle, and then it's open season.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:21 am to sqerty
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If you really believe it it's not a conspiracy.
My issue is why does anyone automatically think the information we get from bureaucrats is correct?
Politicians and government workers have incredible incentives to lie and cheat.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:22 am to Deactived
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You've brought this up in this thread a few times regarding free thinkers. So if someone's argument isn't something completely original, they're essentially part of the npc crowd that is controlled by whatever entity delivers their side's content
In a close race to the bottom, the people that think they're above the fray are quickly catching up to the lead pack
This is a good point
An opinion isn't necessarily "better" if it's original
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:23 am to Powerman
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An opinion isn't necessarily "better" if it's original
True, but its not lazy and its certainly not sheepish.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:25 am to Deactived
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So if someone's argument isn't something completely original, they're essentially part of the npc crowd that is controlled by whatever entity delivers their side's content
Nope.
If someone gets all of their talking points from other sources then, by definition, they're not a "Free thinker".
Within the context of CTs, the "free thinker" self-Identification is a very important one. However, the irony with CTs is that the super-majority of people who promote them don't create them.
Did you see the guy earlier? This was literally his response:
He couldn't even conceptualize the question and then tried to divert the conversation back to a comfort area he understood. When I wouldn't let him and kept him on topic, he got emotional.
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