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re: What is the logic behind this deportation? What is the purpose?

Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:29 am to
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
2539 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:29 am to
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, that she failed to demonstrate that she would suffer extreme hardship if deported.


Exactly. She failed to prove her case.

Then tried a sham marriage, that when caught admitted too.

Then tried another marriage and found out she had screwed herself with the sham marriage.

Then tried having a baby and claiming that would cause hardship if deported.

And on and on with appeals and trying to bury her case with paperwork.

The point is she should have been sent home long ago. Just because she wasn't doesn't preclude doing it now. Her "being a threat" has nothing to do with it.

The big difference here is I would say the same even if she was in DC on Jan 6th wearing a MAGA hat and holding an American Flag. There is a right way period.

You on the other hand feel free to disregard facts or laws that don't fit your left leaning views. You try to use religion as cover and twist and turn the facts while picking and choosing. By law they can ship her home. Period.

Why do you feel someone who admitted to a sham marriage to circumvent immigration laws should be allowed to stay?
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 10:32 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51522 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:59 am to
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She isn’t here legally and she must return to her home. This is not her home and she broke our laws to be here.

What law did she break? Our government granted her permission to be here as long as she complied with certain requirements - and she did.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51522 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:00 am to
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The law of against staying here illegally

Show me the law she broke. You can’t.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58463 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:00 am to
The argument seems to be that the government can change its mind for any or no reason, which is true. But "because ICE said so" isn't a compelling justification for this woman's detention and presumed future deportation.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
2539 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:04 am to
Think of it as At-will employment. Just because you worked at a company for years doesn't mean you can't be fired.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51522 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:07 am to
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What law did she break?"

As if she doesn't know the fricking answer...

She doesn’t know the answer; you don’t know the answer; and I don’t know the answer. Our government gave her permission to stay, so she was not breaking laws by staying. Our government has chosen to revoke that permission to stay. If she contrives a way to stay, without government permission, then she would be breaking laws. So far, she hasn’t.

The question now is: Is it wise for our government to revoke the permission for this (apparently) law abiding, productive woman to stay. Based on what I’ve read so far my answer is no, it is not wise.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21929 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:09 am to
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She isn’t here legally and she must return to her home. This is not her home and she broke our laws to be here.

“No one is above the law.” Remember?



Yep, so true, but bleeding-heart liberals will continue to find examples to try and get people to feel pity for them. I see it a different way- This lady has been here 50 years and still never obtained citizenship?? How freaking stupid can you be!!
Posted by VeniceBeachMouton
Venice,California
Member since Feb 2013
706 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:11 am to
What law did she break?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:13 am to
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She doesn’t know the answer; you don’t know the answer; and I don’t know the answer. Our government gave her permission to stay, so she was not breaking laws by staying. Our government has chosen to revoke that permission to stay. If she contrives a way to stay, without government permission, then she would be breaking laws. So far, she hasn’t.

The question now is: Is it wise for our government to revoke the permission for this (apparently) law abiding, productive woman to stay. Based on what I’ve read so far my answer is no, it is not wise.


Have a well earned upvote.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
2539 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:16 am to
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What law did she break?



Maybe playing semantics here but I think overstaying a visa and being caught in a sham marriage to circumvent immigration law is good enough but I'm sure liberals who are fine with all sorts of violence and destruction when it suits their cause would disagree.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7621 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:17 am to
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Show me the law she broke. You can’t.


The people deporting her can show it to you. Why don't you dial them up and ask them?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58463 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:21 am to
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Maybe playing semantics here but I think overstaying a visa and being caught in a sham marriage to circumvent immigration law is good enough


The government disagreed with your take for more than 40 years and even collected tax dollars from her.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1408 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:22 am to
Being here illegally. Is kinda shitty use of resources tho. Bringing a convoy of ICE agents to haul off an old lady when there are construction sites operating in the wide open full to the brim will illegals stealing American jobs. Really just have to deport them all.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22783 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:27 am to
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The government disagreed with your take for more than 40 years


There is a new sheriff in town. The fact that the government has chosen not to detain/deport this woman in the past does not change the fact that she lost her asylum case. She has no legal basis to stay.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
2539 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:29 am to
No, those are fact of record.

She was allowed to stay and now things might have changed. Might be time to go, maybe she's allowed to stay, we will see. But it seems "my take" is now the govs take.

I don't really care about this one case, I'm glad to see any movement including the gang roundups, workplace raids and this "low hanging fruit".

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51522 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:56 pm to
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Show me the law she broke. You can’t.
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The people deporting her can show it to you.
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RohanGonzales

So you concede.
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