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Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:05 pm to Easy
Not going anywhere. Curious.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:08 pm to baybeefeetz
Given the relatively short span of time slavery was in use in the United States and the rather limited spread of it, I'd say that the US wasn't any where near the worst practitioner.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:21 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Africa
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:46 pm to goatmilker
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Very few in terms of numbers. But SPQR comes to mind.
Really? Maybe you should read a book, south American slave populations dwarfed those of the Colonies and United States
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:51 pm to baybeefeetz
I don't think you are getting the answers you thought you would.
I am assuming you were asking about the Trans-Atlantic slave Trade(1600-1800)? Right?
There were OTHER slave trades going on back then such as the Trans-Sahara and Trans-Indian Ocean slave trades which accounted for nearly 30 million humans, while the Trans-Atlantic slave trade accounted for around 11 million humans.
(lets not talk about present day slave trades).
I don't have a link but I printed this out several years ago:
There were an estimated 11 million transported slaves during the TAST(Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade).
Portugal accounted for 46% or a little over 5 million slaves
Britian accounted for 28% or around 3.1 million slaves
France accounted for 13 % or aound 1.5 million slaves
The Netherlands, 4.8%, 1/2 million slaves
Spain, 4.7% roughly a 1/2 million
The US and the British Carribbean, 2.5% or about 280,000 slaves.
I am assuming you were asking about the Trans-Atlantic slave Trade(1600-1800)? Right?
There were OTHER slave trades going on back then such as the Trans-Sahara and Trans-Indian Ocean slave trades which accounted for nearly 30 million humans, while the Trans-Atlantic slave trade accounted for around 11 million humans.
(lets not talk about present day slave trades).
I don't have a link but I printed this out several years ago:
There were an estimated 11 million transported slaves during the TAST(Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade).
Portugal accounted for 46% or a little over 5 million slaves
Britian accounted for 28% or around 3.1 million slaves
France accounted for 13 % or aound 1.5 million slaves
The Netherlands, 4.8%, 1/2 million slaves
Spain, 4.7% roughly a 1/2 million
The US and the British Carribbean, 2.5% or about 280,000 slaves.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:12 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:Brazil
In terms of number of slaves, where they came from, when it was legal, how important slavery was to the economy, how they were treated, and any other factors you think worth discussing.
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Islam ME
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:29 pm to Reubaltaich
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Spain, 4.7% roughly a 1/2 million
This one needs an asterisk, seeing as how Spain didn't need to transport as many slaves to the New World when they had an indigenous population they could enslave for much cheaper.
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France accounted for 13 % or aound 1.5 million slaves
I'm actually surprised this one isn't much higher, considering the mortality rate of the slaves in their colonies.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:33 pm to udtiger
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While slavery is wholly abhorrent, the US "version" was the most benign example of "modern" slavery. It was the only example where the slave population actually INCREASED by natural increase after importation was outlawed.
That's partially due to U.S. laws preventing the further importation of slaves and the way other countries, like France, had a different way they used their slaves. They just worked theirs to death and then brought new ones in, whereas we in the U.S. had to have a domestic breeding operation.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:36 pm to Reubaltaich
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Enterprising African chieftains, mercenaries... traded with the slavers, often for beads, rum, dye's, silver & gold, guns and ammo....
Actually, a lot of it had to do with tribal conflict. It was a convenient way to rid the countryside of your rivals. And if you could get some guns and rum in the bargain instead of just massacring them, all the better.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:37 pm to Sayre
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Actually, a lot of it had to do with tribal conflict. It was a convenient way to rid the countryside of your rivals. And if you could get some guns and rum in the bargain instead of just massacring them, all the better.
Yup.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:38 pm to Sayre
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Actually, a lot of it had to do with tribal conflict. It was a convenient way to rid the countryside of your rivals. And if you could get some guns and rum in the bargain instead of just massacring them, all the better.
So basically exactly what Africa is like right now. I guess they don't have evolution over there.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:41 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:41 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:What the hell is a comparator aside from some electronic gizmo?
you suck dick at reading
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:47 pm to Sayre
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Actually, a lot of it had to do with tribal conflict. It was a convenient way to rid the countryside of your rivals. And if you could get some guns and rum in the bargain instead of just massacring them, all the better.
Yep, they started figuring out that they could become very wealthy trading captives from rival tribes instead of eating them and killing them for fun.
Dahomey(present day Benin) was a major supplier of slaves in the TAST, it is estimated Dahomey rounded up around 3 million slaves for trade. Dahomey was part of the infamous 'Slave Coast' of Africa.
Other African kingdoms were involved heavily as well, such as the Ashantis, Laongo, Congo.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:57 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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So basically exactly what Africa is like right now.
Not at all. You might ignorantly think so, as in the case of the Hutu/Tutsi conflict that caused the genocide in Rwanda. But that would mean you have to ignore the Belgian bullshite that sowed the seeds.
Most of the rest of the conflict now is religious/economic/racial based, as in Sudan. It's not Masai vs Kung, it's Arab vs African, Muslim vs Christian.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:09 pm to Sayre
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Not at all. You might ignorantly think so, as in the case of the Hutu/Tutsi conflict that caused the genocide in Rwanda. But that would mean you have to ignore the Belgian bullshite that sowed the seeds.
Most of the rest of the conflict now is religious/economic/racial based, as in Sudan. It's not Masai vs Kung, it's Arab vs African, Muslim vs Christian.
OK, so they've evolved from tribal killings to racist/religious killings. They've come so far.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:15 pm to baybeefeetz
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what is the closest comparator nation to the United States, slavery-wise? In terms of number of slaves, where they came from, when it was legal, how important slavery was to the economy, how they were treated, and any other factors you think worth discussing.
You do realize slavery in the Americas was not started by the United States Government right?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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OK, so they've evolved from tribal killings to racist/religious killings. They've come so far
And just this past week the Dinka and Nuer Tribes were back at it in South Sudan, and taking some pot shots at the Marines. So they devolved pretty quickly. They were so close at some civilizational evolution.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:27 pm to OleWar
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And just this past week the Dinka and Nuer Tribes were back at it in South Sudan, and taking some pot shots at the Marines. So they devolved pretty quickly. They were so close at some civilizational evolution.
I know. I'm pretty sure that one isn't religious either. Africa is a fricking shite show and always will be.
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