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re: What if the Russian dossier turns out to be sort of true?

Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:38 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:38 am to
So there’s no way this guy



wanted to big time a brash, outspoken American billionaire who was hosting the worlds largest beauty pageant in Moscow?

I’m engaged to a Russian (Ukrainian - but it’s the same thing. Half live in Moscow, half live in Kiev). I’ve met her male family members in Russia and Ukraine. They do shite like this to the fullest of their ability. They love to show up Americans and other males - they maybe do it in a friendly way, but they do it
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:42 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:45 am to
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This about sums up the maturity level of a trump fanatic. I swear they're probably other morons like you that believe that God wanted that bed to be pee'd on.


What? I'm just following what I know about Russian culture, about Putin's sense of humor and his love of showing off his powers. I don't think Trump had ANYTHING to do with this story (assuming it is somewhat true). He would have been a very innocent and unwitting "participant" in this.

The only reason nobody believes this story is because bodily fluids are so taboo in American culture. They're not as taboo in eastern Europe / Russia.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:46 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:48 am to
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don't think Trump had ANYTHING to do with this story (assuming it is somewhat true).


You are such a trump fanatic that you can't even imagine a scenario, hypothetically, where it's all true. Even your imagination won't let you go there. That's pretty telling. Not really going to get a lot of honest opinions out of you, are we?

Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:51 am to
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You are such a trump fanatic that you can't even imagine a scenario, hypothetically, where it's all true. Even your imagination won't let you go there. That's pretty telling. Not really going to get a lot of honest opinions out of you, are we?



I'm confused. I'm pretty sure that I'm the only Trump fan that I've ever seen acknowledge that there might be some truth to the Russian pee tape dossier. Why are you criticizing me for doing the very thing that you say I'm not capable of doing as I'm doing it?
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:52 am
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:52 am to
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I’m engaged to a Russian (Ukrainian - but it’s the same thing. Half live in Moscow, half live in Kiev). I’ve met her male family members in Russia and Ukraine. They do shite like this to the fullest of their ability. They love to show up Americans and other males - they maybe do it in a friendly way, but they do it

1) She must be Russian, because a real Ukrainean would take your nads for calling her Russian!

2) If Putin had anything worthwhile, would he let Trump kill his “Russian Mercenaries” that have performed so well in Georgia, the Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, and Syria?!

3) When you ordered your mail ordered Russian bride, I hope you went for the deluxe model. Quality is more durable over time!

4) Just busting your chops, baw! I hope y’all have a great life together!
Posted by iron banks
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:55 am to
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:55 am to
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I'm pretty sure that I'm the only Trump fan that I've ever seen acknowledge that there might be some truth to the Russian pee tape dossier.


There it is: "some truth." That isnt being honest hypothetically. Saying that you're better than other Trump supporters isn't saying much.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:56 am to
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2) If Putin had anything worthwhile, would he let Trump kill his “Russian Mercenaries” that have performed so well in Georgia, the Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, and Syria?!


I could be wrong, but I feel like Putin is smart enough to know that Trump's intervention in Syria is about 1/10th of what Hillary Clinton or Marco Rubio would be doing right now.

That's my problem with this - I hate to think that Putin legit has something on Trump. It's an amazing scenario to consider though. It's wilder than anything (even Shakespeare) could have come up with.

And just to state - I love Trump. I don't blame him and know he's not a willing / dupe in any of this (in the still unlikely scenario that it's true).

For everything I've laid on in this thread, I would still say it's most likely NOT true if I had to decide. I'm just saying that it's not as insane as we all once thought it was.

Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:59 am to
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What if the Russian dossier turns out to be sort of true?


Funny timing on this thread... I was JUST YESTERDAY thinking that if the pee tape were real, then damn, Trump!'s God Emperor level just went way up in my book.

frick the left.

#MAGA
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:01 am to
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You are such a trump fanatic that you can't even imagine a scenario, hypothetically, where it's all true. Even your imagination won't let you go there. That's pretty telling.

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Delusional disorder is characterized by the presence of either bizarre or non-bizarre delusions which have persisted for at least one month. Non-bizarre delusions typically are beliefs of something occurring in a person’s life which is not out of the realm of possibility..., but the person suffering from this disorder knows them not to be. Delusions are deemed bizarre if they are clearly implausible, not understandable, and not derived from ordinary life experiences.


Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:02 am to
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believe that God wanted that bed to be pee'd on.



Well now that you mention it.....
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:05 am to
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There it is: "some truth." That isnt being honest hypothetically. Saying that you're better than other Trump supporters isn't saying much.


The dossier makes it seem like Trump was popping bottles and cheering peeing Russian prostitutes.

In my scenario he's initially flattered by Putin's sending beautiful high-end escorts to his room but then is shocked / worried by what transpires.

It's a huge difference - the difference of intent and passive versus active involvement.

Trump is innocent in my scenario. He's guilty in your scenario.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:06 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:07 am to
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Funny timing on this thread... I was JUST YESTERDAY thinking that if the pee tape were real, then damn, Trump!'s God Emperor level just went way up in my book.

frick the left.

#MAGA


Exactly. I'm not hating on Trump, I'm mostly just remarking on Putin's relentlessness and unwillingness to let ANY opportunity to get dirt on ANYbody pass.

What are the odds that Trump one day becomes POTUS? Like .0005% at that time? And yet Putin spends mega bucks to get something on him.

Not saying it's true, just saying that Putin is other worldly and I wouldn't put it past him.

I also wouldn't bet against Trump ultimately getting one over on Putin regardless of the truth of this story.
Posted by the LSUSaint
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:07 am to
Even if it were true, IDGA frick. You CANNOT throw out the constitution just because you want evidence illegally.

It not true though, but all the crimes associated with it by the left, certainly are true
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:09 am to
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my scenario he's initially flattered by Putin's sending beautiful high-end escorts to his room but then is shocked / worried by what transpires.


Lol. Billionaire playboy is shocked/worried by hooker peeing. I am allowing my brain to imagine it and it is hilarious
Posted by Diary Queen
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:11 am to
If he let hookers pee on Obama's bed.... I'd allow it.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:11 am to
shocked / worried because it dawns on him what Putin has set up, not because he's a prude or something.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:12 am
Posted by Diary Queen
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:13 am to
Is that Huma in the background of your pic?
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:19 am to
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I could be wrong, but I feel like Putin is smart enough to know that Trump's intervention in Syria is about 1/10th of what Hillary Clinton or Marco Rubio would be doing right now.

I agree. Trumps negotiating tactics are to make a big noise then negotiate from a position of strength.

But, Putin cannot allow Trump to expose Russian weakness.

Internationally, Putin is running a bluff similar to Trump’ Big Noise/Negotiate strategy. Only Trump is the leader of the world’s only super power, and Putin is the leader of a regional power with nukes and an Italian level economy.

Domestically, Putin is feeding Russian irredentism and delusions of grandeur for popular support, and must maintain the undefeatable strong man image for real power and survival.

Allowing Trump to send Russians home in body bags, and to have all see the vaunted Russia air defense system impotently allowing American, British, and French missiles turn allied infrastructure to rubble, strikes at Putin’s very core.

If he could stop Trump, he would!

There is no there there in the Dirty Dossier. But libtards are bitter clingers to their delusional resistance causes.
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:01 am to
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Lol. Billionaire playboy is shocked/worried by hooker peeing. I am allowing my brain to imagine it and it is hilarious


Meet me at Sonic and I’ll pee on you so that your hilarity will have a basis in reality and not your imagination.

I hope next election that you only imagine voting!
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