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re: What has Israel ever done for America?

Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:25 pm to
Without Israel we would have no foot hold in the middle east. We would have to build a military base there instead that would cost us billions a year and be subjected to terror attacks. Look what the Iraqi war cost us.

Love them or hate them they are a necessity for us to keep the peace in the middle east. You can't put a price tag on that.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19410 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:29 pm to
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They are the only nation in the region that carries the torch of American values



One of the things I like about America is that anyone can be an American. You just need to believe in our most basic values. And that’s how we melded Germans, Englishmen and a host of peoples into what we are now.

Hell, one of the most important commanders in the continental army was a Polish noble.

Israel?

Israel is an entho-religious state where race and faith are a pass fail test. And where non Jews are second class citizens. That includes Christians, for the record. Christians are second class citizens in Israel. Israelis are a racist people, and while many Americans laugh when they hear the Israelis use such rhetoric to talk about Palestinians (Muslim or Christian) what they don’t understand is that Israelis feel the same way about Americans.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:30 pm to
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The entire Israel worship is a ruse so dumbass Americans will blindly accept the fact that working stiffs are essentially subsidizing the lifestyles of the millionaires and billionaires who run and lobby for private defense contractors.



Amen brother


But the lazy-minded ones here can only sky scream "anti semite!"
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:33 pm to
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Without Israel we would have no foot hold in the middle east. We would have to build a military base there instead that would cost us billions a year and be subjected to terror attacks. Look what the Iraqi war cost us.

Love them or hate them they are a necessity for us to keep the peace in the middle east. You can't put a price tag on that.



Look at what the Iraq war cost us indeed.

Have you ever understood what it means to be a Reagan Republican versus a Bush-Bush fake?

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:34 pm to
"recognizing" the Golan Heights is the fricking military industrial complex?

Have a joint, friend. Maybe go downtown and find some pussy to help take your mind off those jooz.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19410 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:34 pm to
Could you show us on the map what part of Israel we use for military basing?

Also, did we close our substantial military bases in the Gulf while I was sleeping?

quote:

Love them or hate them they are a necessity for us to keep the peace in the middle east. You can't put a price tag on that.


The peace? What peace?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:35 pm to
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Lima Whiskey



amen again

I hope people are learning from you in this thread
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 pm to
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Could you show us on the map what part of Israel we use for military basing?






no, he cannot
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19410 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:37 pm to
This will get into a silly, yes they do, no they don’t, playground fight, but no, they don’t.

I think it’s a pride thing. They want to hold one over us. Because they do resent the fact that they’re so dependent on us.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:40 pm to
OK Rex. I’ll play along. You think Isreal is a POS and fricks the US.

Who should we partner with in the ME? Should we just totally leave the region?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19410 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:43 pm to
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Should we just totally leave the region?


Sure, why not?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:44 pm to
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OK Rex. I’ll play along. You think Isreal is a POS and fricks the US.

Who should we partner with in the ME? Should we just totally leave the region?


Who should we partner with in the Middle East?

Lebanon, and maybe Syria. And Israel if they behave, which they often do not do.

And work with Russia on their involvement there.

And if by partner, you mean keep sending them our money? Then none of them.

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36241 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:45 pm to
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Who should we partner with in the ME? Should we just totally leave the region?

If valuing democracy or shared values are why we're friends with Israel, which are the bs excuses given by the Israeli-first crowd, why in the hell are the Saudi's our other best friend? They have one of the most despotic regimes on earth and 15 of them killed 3,000 Americans on 9-11.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:45 pm to
And yes, Israel are a POS, and they do frick the US.

Both of those.

Stop denying reality.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13504 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:45 pm to
1- Shared intelligence on arseholes who like to fly planes into buildings.
2- In 1966, when defecting Iraqi pilot Munir Redfa landed in Israel flying a Soviet-built MiG-21 fighter jet, information on the plane was immediately shared with the United States.
3- During the Israeli–Egyptian War of Attrition, Israeli commandos captured a Soviet-built P-12 radar station in an operation code-named Rooster 53. Previously unknown information was subsequently shared with the US.
4- Buys $526,000,000 in US arms, #6 in world.
5- June 1984, and the United States constructed two War Reserve Stock facilities in Israel to stockpile military equipment. Although intended for American forces in the Middle East, the equipment can be transferred to Israeli use if necessary.
6- Israel carried out Operation Opera, an Israeli airstrike on the Osirak nuclear reactor in Baghdad.
7- The United States urged Israel not to retaliate against Iraq for the attacks because it was believed that Iraq wanted to draw Israel into the conflict and force other coalition members, Egypt and Syria in particular, to quit the coalition and join Iraq in a war against Israel. Israel did not retaliate, and gained praise for its restraint.
8- In September 2008, The Guardian reported that the U.S. vetoed Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's plan to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities the previous May.
9- Source of critical weapons for Mujahideen and defeat of USSR in Afghanistan.
10- Arrow Anti-Ballistic Missile Program, designed to intercept and destroy ballistic missiles is funded by both Israel and the United States. The Arrow has also provided the US with the research and experience necessary to develop additional weapons systems. So far, the development cost has been between $2.4 and $3.6 billion, with the United States picking up 50 percent of the final costs.
11- The Dimona Radar Facility is an American radar facility in the Negev desert of Israel, located near Dimona. The facility has two 400-foot radar towers designed to track ballistic missiles through space and provide ground-based missiles with the targeting data needed to intercept them. It can detect missiles up to 1,500 miles away. The facility is owned and operated by the US military, and provides only second-hand intelligence to Israel.
12- Israel makes up just three percent of the population of the Middle East, in 2011 Israel was the destination of 25 percent of all U.S. exports to the region, having recently eclipsed Saudi Arabia as the top market there for American products.

Was a dozen enough to drown out the crickets or do you need more?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:53 pm to
I see you support Trump.

So do I and I'll vote for him again in 2020.

Do you know that Israel helped fund ISIS against Syria? And do you know that John Bolton is near stabbing Trump in the back on Syria?

And do you know why?

Are you a John McCain puppet? Because you sure as frick copied and pasted a bunch of shite that he would have shoved down a puppet's throat.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:55 pm to
looks like an administrator who can't handle the truth anchored the thread
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36241 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:57 pm to
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Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $134.7 billion (current, or noninflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

The American taxpayer has given Israel $134.5 billion since 1948. Shame on the politicians for allowing it and shame on anyone who thinks subsidizing a wealthy nation's military at the expense of its own domestic projects is in America's best interest.

CRS Reports
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:02 pm to
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Stop denying reality.


Not denying anything. The whole Middle East is a pit of Vipers. But I think the the horses are out of the barn on Getting out.
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